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Title: New Iron Wood bow finished.
Post by: Pappy on August 11, 2008, 07:50:36 am
I finely got my IW finished and shot in,I have put abot 300 arrows through it and man it is a shooter.
It is 62 n-n 53@26.It has about an inch of back set after shooting and about 2 after rest.I first dyed it with yellow and planed on doing the lower half with a dark Orange like I have seen on here several
times but it looked like crap so I dyed it all over with the darker color and then sanded it down so just some of the bright yellow showed through.It is sealed with about 8 coats of tru oil and the a cover
coat of Satin poly. to dull it down.turned out looking pretty good,a little different but OK.Hope yall
 like it.By the way out of all the IW. I have had over the years this is my first bow from it.I always seem to give it away.I almost gave this away at the Classic but Greg talked me out of it,Thanks GregB.
   Pappy

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Post by: Pappy on August 11, 2008, 07:53:08 am
It had a little character in the bottom limb that gave a little trouble tillering but seemed to
work out fine.A few more pictures.
   Pappy

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Title: Re: New Iron Wood bow finished.
Post by: GregB on August 11, 2008, 08:37:09 am
Well, once Pappy finally kept a piece of hhb long enough to make a bow out of it...I think he done it justice!  ;) It really is a good shooter and I'd bet it see's some action in the deer woods this fall!

I wasn't crazy about the initial dye scheme just like Pappy wasn't...chance's you take when trying something new sometimes. But I like the combination he has on it now, turned out to be a good looking bow as well as a performer. :)
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Post by: Woodland Roamer on August 11, 2008, 09:12:48 am
Great looking bow Pappy!

Alan
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Post by: Okie on August 11, 2008, 09:15:48 am
Very nice bow Pappy.

John
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Post by: DanaM on August 11, 2008, 09:17:26 am
Looks great Pappy, but you couldn't resist making it look like osage eh :D
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Post by: Ryano on August 11, 2008, 09:32:49 am
Nice bow Pappy. ;D That hophornbeam is good bow wood. Now I gota get ya to try some elm. Did ya'll ever find that half of a log I brought ya? ???
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Post by: Pappy on August 11, 2008, 09:39:44 am
Ya I am pretty sure we did,I think Greg was hoarding it up somewhere and had forgot
where he put it.From what I seen of yours I got to try some.Thanks guys. :)
   Pappy
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Post by: Ryano on August 11, 2008, 09:54:30 am
That Greg. Always hoarding stuff up....lol.  ::)
I'll bring ya some more this spring if I can manage getting it there....Might not be as big a piece if we have to bring the car again. lol.
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Post by: Justin Snyder on August 11, 2008, 10:23:30 am
Great looking bow Pappy. 
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Post by: George Tsoukalas on August 11, 2008, 10:47:41 am
Great job, Pappy. I like the dye job a lot too. Jawge
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Post by: adb on August 11, 2008, 10:50:30 am
A very nice bow!
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Post by: The Burnt Hill Archer on August 11, 2008, 10:52:08 am
very nice pappy, and i like the faux-sage look to it! ;D

Phil
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Post by: Dano on August 11, 2008, 11:36:43 am
Great job Pappy.
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Post by: Pappy on August 11, 2008, 11:57:17 am
Thanks guys,I like it so far.I kind of wished I had went with another color but it sort of
grows on ya. :)
   Pappy
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Post by: Keenan on August 11, 2008, 12:21:21 pm
 Great looking bow Pappy, I like the charater and really like the slightly stiffer outer limbs at full draw.Gives a good string angle and looks like a great shooter. With the density of the iron wood, how is it on hand shock? Have you done any mass calculations on it?
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Post by: OldBow on August 11, 2008, 12:34:17 pm
I've got this fine bow all bookmarked for August Self BOM. Nice job!
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Post by: Jesse on August 11, 2008, 02:16:46 pm
Nice one Pappy. You do great work. Im gonna Have to try that one out next year.
                                                                            Jesse
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Post by: Dustybaer on August 11, 2008, 02:20:36 pm
don't know what you're talking about.  i think the dye job looks great, especially on that character portion of the lower limb.  absolutely beautiful bow.  as far as tiller goes, i'm with keenan.
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Post by: Pat B on August 11, 2008, 02:28:19 pm
Beautiful bow Pappy. HHB makes an excellent bow. I was very impressed with the one I donated to the Classic and Ron's son won.     Pat
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Post by: medicinewheel on August 11, 2008, 04:25:28 pm

looks great!

frank
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Post by: snedeker on August 11, 2008, 04:49:15 pm
Gtreat bow Pappy. Terrific profile and details. I haven't used hhb

Dave
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Post by: bigcountry on August 11, 2008, 05:42:13 pm
Very nice, I really want to make an iron wood bow one day.
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Post by: Badger on August 11, 2008, 07:26:56 pm
Hot looking bow Pappy, looks like you just can't stay away from that yeller can ya?? Steve
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Post by: Bent Rig on August 11, 2008, 08:30:17 pm
Nice to see your talent on something other than Osage ! Lol !! Very nice , I like the color  and really like that full draw pic -very nice shape !

Paul  ;)
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Post by: ricktrojanowski on August 11, 2008, 09:06:58 pm
Another beauty Pappy.  Looks like a good shooter.
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Post by: Hillbilly on August 11, 2008, 09:30:05 pm
That's a nice'un, Pappy, mighty nice.
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Post by: tom sawyer on August 11, 2008, 11:14:05 pm
Excellent work.  Did you take any special pains to keep it dry?
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Post by: RG on August 11, 2008, 11:45:54 pm
Good looking bow Pappy like the last finish better than the first

Ron
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Post by: ThimoS on August 12, 2008, 06:36:42 am
I like it.

Is that blue-beech???
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Post by: DanaM on August 12, 2008, 06:50:36 am
its hophornbeam Thimo
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Post by: tom sawyer on August 12, 2008, 11:25:31 am
The back of the bow does look kind of like musclewood.  The hop hornbeam I had wasn't very "muscly".  But I'm sure there are differences form tree to tree.
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Post by: burn em up chuck on August 12, 2008, 11:32:58 am
 nice bow,i like the color,never worked with ironwood. the small ridges on the back is that just under the bark? nice effect.        

                                          chuck
Title: Re: New Iron Wood bow finished.
Post by: Pappy on August 12, 2008, 12:14:50 pm
Ya Lennie I done it about like Hickory as far as keeping it dry,even tho I don't think from what I have seen it is near as critical as Hickory.It is Hhb,I have some ,what we call muscle wood   
[ Blue Beach] but have never found a piece close to straight enough for a bow and I work with some pretty crooked stuff. ;) :) Thanks for the complaments I appreciate it a lot.  :) I'm with
you King Ron. ;D Badger something about Yellow just turns me on. ;D ;D
   Pappy
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Post by: knightd on August 12, 2008, 12:29:29 pm
Good looking bow.. I cant find HHB any where around these parts.. Can you order staves??

 David
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Post by: John K on August 12, 2008, 07:20:01 pm
Turned out real nice Pappy ! I hope you make some meat with it this year  :)
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Post by: TRACY on August 12, 2008, 09:51:57 pm
Really nice bow Pappy! Did you steam or heat gun? I've got a half log that tried to corkscrew but I plan on steaming it straight.

Tracy
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Post by: jwillis on August 12, 2008, 09:57:11 pm
I like the stiff tips and tiller on that one.  I'll bet it has good cast.  Jim
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Post by: Pappy on August 13, 2008, 06:25:09 am
I used dry heat Tracy,but I am sure steam would work also.This one was pretty twisted and heat took it out very easily.It dose shoot hard Jim. I flipped the tips just lightly on it,I do that to most
of mine ,just done this one a little less.I am sure it will do the job John,if I can. :) ;) ;D
   Pappy
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Post by: Sidewinder on August 13, 2008, 08:49:19 pm
Great job Pappy, I love your bows. It inspires me to keep on shaving till I get it right.  Danny
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Post by: Rich Saffold on August 13, 2008, 09:34:02 pm
 ;D I love it Pappy, Does coloring it like osage make it shoot faster? ;D

Rich
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Post by: cracker on August 13, 2008, 09:41:03 pm
Really a good looking piece of work.R.C.
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Post by: Pappy on August 14, 2008, 05:51:15 am
Thanks Ronnie, Rich it will pick up about 10 fps. ;) ;D ;D
   Pappy
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Post by: Marc St Louis on August 14, 2008, 08:56:49 am
Very nice Pappy.  HHB makes an excellent bow.
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Post by: n2everythg on August 14, 2008, 11:08:25 am
Man that bow looks really purty. You sure do turn out some nice ones. Beautiful job.
wade
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Post by: Pappy on August 15, 2008, 06:37:10 am
Thanks Wade and Marc I plan on shooting it more this weekend at the club shoot I
really like the way it performs so far.  :)
   Pappy
Title: Re: New Iron Wood bow finished.
Post by: Pappy on August 19, 2008, 09:19:22 am
Well I put about a hundred arrows through it this weekend at the club shoot,it held up good.
Couldn't beat out Old GregB with it but maybe if I keep practicing  I will get there.  :) Shoots the
shoot shafts with 160 trade points very nice also ,so I guess it will get a trip to the woods in
a month or so. :)
   Pappy
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Post by: cowboy on August 19, 2008, 10:47:31 am
Somehow missed this one Pappy - that looks good, I'm glad you kept a peice to finish sounds like finally :). That dye job makes it look like a peice of osage. I got two peices of IW from up there, the gift from Mr.GregB of course and a stave from Ridgerunner - am anxious to get on em..
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Post by: Pappy on August 20, 2008, 06:01:21 am
Need to get on it,I have been really impressed with this one and the ones Greg and Keith have turned out,don't know that it is better than Osage but I would rank it right up there close. :)
   Pappy
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Post by: GregB on August 20, 2008, 09:04:07 am
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Couldn't beat out Old GregB with it but maybe if I keep practicing  I will get there.

Don't let Pappy fool you...he outshoots me more often then not. My winning our club shoot Saturday reminds me of an old sayin..."
even a blind hog picks up an acorn every once in a while!". ;D

Hope I can pick up a few "acorns" deer hunting this fall! ;)
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Post by: Pappy on October 03, 2008, 07:19:04 am
Ha it made meat. :) It done a mighty fine job.Shot through back bone to chest,2 yard shot.
Always some questions from new comers to the self bow if you can hunt with them and
my answer is always,they have done it for thousands of years,Also about how much weight
 for whitetail 50 is plenty ,I think arrow weight is the main thing.Deer steaks tonight. :) Now
it is really finished. :)
   Pappy
   
   

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Post by: orcbow on October 03, 2008, 07:42:53 am
Nice job Pappy!!!  And what a nice bow!
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Post by: GregB on October 03, 2008, 08:35:37 am
Good deal! I told you that you needed to make a bow out of that stave and not give it away like all the other hhb's in the past. Your first hhb bow, and look at what it helped you do! ;)

Further comment on selfbow's hunting ability...thus far from last weekend until today that I'm aware of, club members and friends have taken six deer. Jesse's (Leapingbare) the week before would make seven. Homemade sourwood arrow, cane arrow, and I think the rest with cedar or hickory arrow's. Pappy was also using tradepoint's, the rest with regular steel broadhead's. All the deer that I've seen had very impressive arrow penetration from the bow.
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Post by: Ranger B on October 03, 2008, 09:04:44 am
Well said Greg.  I think many newcomers have an expectation of long shots and therefore don't feel that traditional kit is good.  In reality I hunted with a compound for several years and I killed deer but honestly they weren't much farther from my stand than the ones I've killed with a longbow.  I think the key is in the hunt and hunter.  We scout, put up a good stand and then exercise patience in anticipation of a good shot.   When you get the deer in at 15 yards or closer the longbow is as lethal as anything you could hope for.  If you expect to fling arrows at 30 yards then yes you may miss, but I've heard plenty of wheel bow misses at that range.
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Post by: ballista on October 03, 2008, 06:38:40 pm
 thats a goregous bow, the finish looks superb also. did you like ironwood? what part of the states did you cut it? (taking a guess you're an american like myself) my grampa lives on the mississippi, near lacrosse in wisconson, he said he could cus some, i'd just have to give him an idea of the width to cut, and winter;s dawning on us now, so i'd wanna cut it before the inner bark starts sticking ;D the bottom limb looks awesome, too. -jimmy
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Post by: DirtyDan on October 04, 2008, 11:53:50 am
Wow, great job, Pappy.  An excellent bow and an excellent harvest.  Congratulations on both.  You are my hero!!!  I am going to try to find some ironwood around here.  The guy who asked about blue beech was not far off:  my friend the arborist did some research for me and found that blue beech, hop hornbeam and ironwood are sometimes the same tree, depending upon where it is found.  Anyway, great job.  I have been hunting with my locust sapling bow, cane arrows and stone points this season, but so far, I have not been lucky. 

Dan
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Post by: Sidewinder on October 04, 2008, 01:04:47 pm
Pappy, Did you say a 2yd shot? Why did'nt you just leap from the stand onto its back and cut its throat with the buck knife...lol    Just kidding, had to give you a little S*%@#. Nice harvest   Danny
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Post by: Knocker on October 04, 2008, 04:14:15 pm
Nice bow, and enviable hunt.  Pappy, you are calling Hophornbeam "Ironwood".  Isn't there also an ironwood from South America?  Very dark, dense wood?  Have you heard of anyone making a bow from it?

Keith
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Post by: DirtyDan on October 23, 2008, 10:23:28 pm
Pappy,  go to this site for info on ironwood.  http://hort.ufl.edu/trees/CARCARA.pdf
 Dan
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Post by: Pappy on October 24, 2008, 05:30:02 am
I don't know for sure Keith,there probably is.Thanks Dan,where you been ?
   Pappy
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Post by: majsnuff on October 24, 2008, 11:53:28 am
WOW! what a nice bow. great job.
Back to the drawing board for me.
After looking at the fine bows on here, I am not ready to post pics of mine LOL.
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Post by: PeteC on October 25, 2008, 07:58:53 pm
That's a great looking bow,and it's already earning it's keep.Good shot too!! I just put the 10th coat of tru-oil on a HHB of my own today,after I got back from huntin'.  God Bless
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Post by: kayakfisher on October 25, 2008, 10:32:08 pm
Pappy
   Since you didn't give that piece of wood away how bout sending some of those deer steaks my way  >:D
                       Dennis
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Post by: brownhillboy on October 26, 2008, 12:23:18 am
Nice bow Pappy!  Looks good to me.  I'd like to try some of that hhb sometime too.
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Post by: Cool-Aid on October 26, 2008, 05:27:39 pm
Very nice bow, and congratulations on the deer! I was jumping with joy when i read i could use ironwood i have access to an uncountable number of them. I suppose i could make a nice flatbow out of one.
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Post by: Pappy on October 27, 2008, 12:51:38 pm
Thanks guys, Cool-aid is is a fine wood,one of the better ones in my opinion.  :)
   Pappy