Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: D. Tiller on July 08, 2008, 04:28:51 pm
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Well, I'm just about ready to start work on straightenning my arrow shoots. But, I need some help on making the tools to use in straightenning the shafts and so forth. Can you guys post pictures of the tools you use and construction info? Please help!!!! I am finding using my hands and my heatgun to be a lot of work! Could it be the technique I am using? Any and all info would be apreciated!!!
David T
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Never used anything except my hands and a heat source. Works for me. If there's a bend near the end of a shaft that I can't get hold of with my hands, I'll stick the tip between the spring and body of my leg vise or whatever's handy and pry it out.
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I have got to make me a bench for a vise and put them together. Do you guys have the plans on how Pappy made his benches that he uses at his place? Those look like just what I need to really have something to work on! I am really getting tired of useing one of those bench mate watcha makolits that you set up and can store away. My back is killing me from bending over so low and it just does not hold the wood well. I know! I know! I'm bi@#$@N and moanen! ;D
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i use my hands too,and the grill or littler propane space heater.
but i been thinking, for the bends at the ends of the shafts, take a six inch long 1x2. drill a hole near one end about 5/8ths of inch wide at a 45 degree angle
heat the shaft,slip it in and gently bend.
gotta remember to be gentle,i just broke one that was almost perfectly straight :'(
peace,
tim
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Now thats just, SNIFF!, terrible!!! ;)
I will make one! I think I have just the wood to make it out of! Are there any other tools you all can suggest?
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D.Tiller, I am so fortunate in that I have a large work shop, 28ft x 34 ft long. It has three rooms in it. Attached is a couple of photos of some of the benches in one of the rooms, actually my machining room. If you search Lowe's and Home Depot, sometimes you can find custom counter tops people have canceled or were ordered by mistake. You can get them for a fraction of the cost. The two shown here I paid a total of $54 for. The small tool you see in the other photo is my arrow straightening tool. I Carry this tool in my pocket 24-7. It is a deer tine with a brass hook in it. If you need to straighten an arrow in the field, or in your workshop, I usually rotate and sight down the shaft and then put the high side up. Hook the tool over the arrow and press down while sliding it over the high spot. Works great and only takes two or three swipes.
Dick
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Dick, do you heat your shafts before using the antler tool?
Nice shop! Wish I had that much space. I do my work in a small shed not more than 10'x10'. Kinda cramped with all my stuff in there.
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This is what I use along with some heat. Can't take credit for it. Saw it on a how-to on straightening Multiflora rose. Put a 2x2 on the bottom & chuck it up in a vice. Works better than any thing I've ever used.
Butch
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Thats prety cool Butch! How long is it length and width wise? I will have to try that too. Man the possabilities are endless now.
How about home made target points?
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Hey D.Tiller you do not have to heat the shafts. I lay one end on top of my shoulder and hold the other end with my left hand. Hook the tool over the shaft and pull down while sliding it back and forth over the high part of the bend. It really only works with wood shafts, not boo. I'll try and have Amy take a photo of me doing one. It is really quite simple but hard to explain.
Butch, that is a good tool. I will make one tomorrow. Thanks for posting it.
Dick
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There's arrow info on my site. Jawge
http://mysite.verizon.net/georgeandjoni/
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dbernier: awesome shop dude :o i am so envious, i have a Little one stall garage that houses all of my home maintenance stuff i.e. lawnmower etc,motorcycle,which leaves me about a 8 ft square area to make bows in in the summer,winter i move into the basement with about the same area to work in. feels like working in a jail cell ( never been in one, but i imagine thats how it would feel )
thats a cool tool, pics of ya using it would be great, can always use a tool for in the field,
butch: thats a pretty cool tool also, dimensions would be appreciated. i'm getting tired of burnig the callouses off of my thumbs doing it by hand
peace,
tim
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I don't know how well it would work on shoot shafts, but here's a little tool I made for working on cedar shafts.
It's a brass roller that I took off a Muzzy bowfishing rest and mounted on a little handle.
You simply roll the shaft on a flat counter top to find the high side. Then roll over it with a little pressure. As you roll and press down on the crooked area, it compresses the wood and straightens them right out. It won't hurt the finish and will straighten little areas right out near the ends . Once you get them straight, they stay straight too.
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I bet that would work for shoots if you heated them up before hand! Nice idea. I think I know where to find something like that!
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Hey Saw Filer, now that is neat. Good workbench tool. With enough clearance you could use it in the field like I described, over the shoulder. This is good stuff.
Dick
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Pappy has one like Sawfiler uses, except I think he purchased it.
Has anyone else noticed that if reheating nodes more then once they're not as readily plyable as the first time? I might have been getting mine to hot.
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I have one of them,didn't make it ,I got it from Ace,I have been using it on my Cain arrows to compress the nodes.It works great for that.Heat them up and roll the flat.I also used it on some Hickory shafts.I just heated the area and rolled them on the high side and worked great also.
Pappy
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Great ideas here.... ;D
There's a well-known video on youtube that briefly shows a slick arrow straightening tool used by a master arrow-maker. I saw it a while ago, but it didn't dawn on me, until recently, that I missed it. I watched it again, copied the tool (made it out of mulberry branch), and it works great.
Here's the link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93EoM77bCVc&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93EoM77bCVc&feature=related)
The arrow straightening tool appears at 1:36, good closeup at 1:48, and appears again at 5:05.
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Nice tool......and try to do that little Stunt at the End with a POC Arrow ....or a Hardwood for that matter!!!!
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D Tiller,
Sorry it took a while to get back. Those are 2x2s about 6ins. long. Set apart just enough to allow for the arrow. Mounted on a piece of plywood with another 2x2 on the bottom so you can chuck it in a vise.
Butch
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THANKS!
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Here are some of mine, Finely got some pictures.Keep in mind you don't need all this stuff
I am just a tool and equipment nut.I like stuff. :)
Pappy
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The first are arrow straighting tools,Grain scale,spine tester,cresting tool,Tapering jig,Cut off tool,another spin tester,feather splitter,Camp stove and I also have a wood chuck to taper nock and point ends if I don't do self nocks. :)
Pappy
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Pappy, nice "stuff" The only thing I can add is on your arrow tapering tool is to drill a series of 1/4 inch dia. holes down between the angles to let a lot of the dust filter down out of the way. Helps in not clogging the sandpaper/files etc. Again, nice "stuff".
Dick
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Pretty Impressive implements, I just used these and some of that fat mixture before I Burnish the Arrow after Fletching.I used a bent Butter knife and heat it to shape the Fletches.PK Good Day
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Recently I was asked to send pictures of the tools I use to straighten arrow shoots. Well, I'm going to post them here in case others might be interested. Sorry for the poor quality of the close-ups. (Hopefully, I will be getting a better camera soon ;D).
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Very cool,I'll have to make me one of those. :)
Pappy
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Very functional and the best part ;D Simple.
Dick
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Just curious if anyone watche the video posted above, does anyone know where to get the plans to build a stove/oven like they use with compressed charcoal?
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Here's what I have been using...
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Whats the metal plate for?
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David that is a draw plate used to reduce the diameter of shafts. You drive the shaft through smaller and smaller holes until you get the diameter you want. Pat
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How do I make one?
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Some vintage 1950s equipment that still works great.
jimmy
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Jimmy, I have an old Young feather burner and an old JoJan straight multi-fletch like you have. It was given to me by a friend that got it from an old retired guy. ;) Pat
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Jimmy your shop is so cluttered ,How do you find anything ;) ;D ;D ;D Unlike mine
that is kept so neat and orderly. ;) ;D ;D
Pappy
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Ha! Pappy's may seem somewhat "scattered" but we all know what happens when a tool of any sort is left in the wrong place. Pappy knows where all his tools go!!!
;)