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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Stonedog on June 17, 2008, 12:00:51 pm

Title: Urac 185
Post by: Stonedog on June 17, 2008, 12:00:51 pm
Does anyone know where I can buy URAC and pay for it with Paypal????

I have some PayPal left over I want to get rid of and I want, no I NEED Urac!
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: Ryano on June 17, 2008, 12:40:37 pm
Why don't you just deposit your paypal acount into your checking? duh....
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: Stonedog on June 17, 2008, 12:46:12 pm
Ryan-

Man that is WAY to easy!
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: Ryano on June 17, 2008, 03:15:05 pm
I know. Your welcome!  ;D
Do a search for Nelson's paint company. They are the makers of urac 185 and you can buy it cheaper from them then anywhere else.
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: Auggie on June 17, 2008, 04:53:30 pm
You might check rudderbows out they accept paypal, and have lots o bow buildin stuff.
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: adb on June 17, 2008, 05:16:41 pm
I don't think you can get glue sent in the mail. Maybe that's just across the border, however. I know USPS or Fed-ex wouldn't accept glue for delivery.
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: Ryano on June 17, 2008, 05:50:50 pm
They will ship it. Fedex, I think but its kinda expensive shipping. There's no other way to get urac. No one sells it in a store.
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: kayakfisher on June 17, 2008, 06:46:14 pm
where u at I bought some and dont really like urac I prefer resorcinal we might work something out
                    Dennis
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: sailordad on June 17, 2008, 06:59:06 pm
 i have purchased bow grip 100 and had it shipped ups( i believe it was).
got that from rudderbows archery,one of my favorite archery webstores.
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: Justin Snyder on June 17, 2008, 07:00:53 pm
I have gotten glue in the mail several times.  ??? You can get Urac from 3Rivers and have it shipped to you, and they are a supporter of this site. http://www.3riversarchery.com/Thumb.asp?c=49&s=199&p=0   ;D Justin
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: Dano on June 17, 2008, 10:16:31 pm
Its cheaper on  Nelson's site.
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: El Destructo on June 17, 2008, 11:00:24 pm
You can get Urac delivered just about any way you want....it is a Two Part and they dont seem to clasify it the same as a Solvent based Glue....try nelsonpaint.com..........or threerivers......they both deliver to your Houise
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: adb on June 18, 2008, 12:56:46 am
I'm talkin' across the Canada/US border. No way, no how, unh-unh.
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: radius on June 18, 2008, 01:00:28 am
adam, do you ever use G2 epoxy?
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: grantmac on June 18, 2008, 03:00:07 am
There is an excellent equivilent made in Burnaby for those folks north of the board. I got some at Industrial Plastics and Paints here in Victoria. I can't remember the name but if you walk in and ask for the new updated version of UF109 they will know what you're on about.
     Cheers,
           Grant
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: radius on June 18, 2008, 03:19:53 am
grant, do you need a heat box for that?
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: grantmac on June 18, 2008, 05:34:47 am
Nope. Been leaving the laminations in my unheater shop overnight and floortillering the next day. So far no glue-related problems. It's made for laminated cedar strip canoes appearently, and those don't fit in hotboxes too well ;D
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: Stonedog on June 18, 2008, 09:17:55 am
Well, I order some thru 3 Rivers yesterday.....using paypal.

Shipped to my door in KY, a whopping $18.20!  I have 5 pieces of hickory bakcing a two Ipe boards........

I am just going to rip the Ipe to Size and glue 'em all up in one go!

Can you say archery nerd heaven?
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: Pat B on June 18, 2008, 10:08:28 am
Also, Weldwood Plastic Resin is a urea glue, similar to Urac. It comes in powder form and you add water to mix. Cures like Urac and once cured I couldn't tell the difference. When I bought it(from Ace Hardware) it was cheap(about $5 for 1# tub). I only used it a few times but never had any problems with it. It doesn't have a shelf life like Urac as long as it isn't exposed to moisture.      Pat
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: Eric Krewson on June 18, 2008, 10:26:35 am
Just ordered a couple of pints from Nelson. I use one and keep the other in the frig, about $10 a pint shipped, much cheaper than any other place. A quart is too much glue unless you make bows for a living so I recommend buying it a pint at a time.
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: radius on June 18, 2008, 11:16:20 am
grant, is it G2 you are talking about?
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: Dano on June 18, 2008, 03:00:28 pm
Here's a link to Nelson's site, shoulda posted it sooner.

Actually Dano you did post the link sooner, but PA doesn't allow links to sites that compete with supporters of PA so I deleted the link.  Justin

Excuse me ::)
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: grantmac on June 18, 2008, 03:01:09 pm
It's definately NOT G2 ;D
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: Apex Predator on June 18, 2008, 05:58:18 pm
If you order from Nelson, be sure to select the option with the hardener.  Somewhere in the description it specified that all of it came with hardener, not so.  I got mine and had to turn around and order $1.50 worth of hardener and pay like $9.00 to ship it!
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: radius on June 18, 2008, 10:11:01 pm
grant:  why do you say NOT like that???  is g2 bad stuff in your opinion??
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: grantmac on June 19, 2008, 03:55:40 am
grant:  why do you say NOT like that???  is g2 bad stuff in your opinion??

Just emphasizing that they are very different products. One is an epoxy and the other is a glue. Supposedly these glues can be used with much higher clamping pressures then epoxy without starving the joint. The counter man at IPP was really knowledgeable when I wa picking it out. He recommend I stay away from the epoxies if I was going to use screw clamps.
     Cheers,
            Grant
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: radius on June 19, 2008, 03:58:30 am
hm...what's it called, so i can check it out when i go next...i've had good success with g2, though...clamps or tubes...
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: Far East Archer on June 19, 2008, 04:07:05 am
About shipping glue...I have ordered a bunch of stuff including urac 185 over here to Japan with no problems, shouldnt be a problem for the closer places either I suppose.....


Alex
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: grantmac on June 19, 2008, 11:40:35 am
I'll take a picture of the stuff later today, it'll be in my warbow thread in the build-along section.
     Cheers,
           Grant
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: radius on June 19, 2008, 11:46:45 am
thanks...and i hope that warbow works out for you...btw, have you tried any douglas fir yet?  Where I work, there's so much vertical grained douglas fir it'd make you sick.  One of these days i'll pull a couple scraps out of there ( i mean, GOOD scraps) and test it as a core wood.  We have all the great woodworking tools, so I can use a jointer to taper the core wood, a thickness sander for parallel laminations...oh, i am in heaven.
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: grantmac on June 19, 2008, 02:40:58 pm
I've been meaning to give Fir a try. I think Steve (Badger) said he had made Fir bows when he was working on his mass theory. If it back make-up most of the depth of a bow with a thin bit of Hickory on the back and a bit of Ipe on the belly it should make for a very fast combination, sort of like a modern foam-core limb.
Updates on the warbow in about an hour, glue cured rock hard in less than 36hours outside. Using the innertube method I have perfect glue-lines this time, no more clamps for me I've learned my lesson.
     Cheers,
            Grant

Edit:
This is the stuff:
(http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j161/grantmac017/DSCN2947.jpg)
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: mullet on June 20, 2008, 07:06:33 pm
  Everybody talks about Urac's short shelf life but I've been using the same can for 4 years without a problem. I have kept it next to the beer in my shop refrigerator since I bought it.
Title: Re: Urac 185
Post by: Eric Krewson on June 21, 2008, 12:24:50 am
Anybody need any hardener for urac I have a bag or two left over. I think they send you a qt sized bag of hardener with each pint.