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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Selfbowman on March 09, 2024, 10:33:40 pm

Title: How old and made where???
Post by: Selfbowman on March 09, 2024, 10:33:40 pm
I was gifted this unusual set .
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Post by: Selfbowman on March 09, 2024, 10:36:00 pm
Metal bow with to sets of string knocks.
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Post by: Selfbowman on March 09, 2024, 11:06:20 pm
Pic
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Post by: superdav95 on March 09, 2024, 11:50:12 pm
im not sure how old it is but its cool
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Post by: Pat B on March 10, 2024, 12:51:20 am
 Way cool.  8)
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Post by: Muskyman on March 10, 2024, 03:18:07 am
Very cool gift. I remember seeing something about metal bows somewhere. Don’t remember where.
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Post by: Hamish on March 10, 2024, 11:21:37 am
Around 1935-55 there were a couple of manufacturers, of steel archery bows, Seefab (Swedish), and Accles(English). I have a few in my bow collection.
I have shot some of them, they are okay but not spectacular with cast. I was warned against shooting them due to being made of hollow tubular steel pipe, and the interior was prone to rust. Even spring steel will eventually work harden and break, even when not rusty.

By the late 1940's, fibreglass composites began to be used and they performed better than steel and didn't break, so the popularity of the modern steel bow didn't last long.

There were also a few American steel bows made. I think they were a bit different, flat bar steel, or aluminum with a built up handle, instead of being  2 piece joined at the handle.

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Post by: willie on March 10, 2024, 11:42:18 am
made of hollow tubular steel pipe,.

is that the construction in the pics Arvin posted above?
Is the tubing in the tubular designs drawn into a tapered tube or tillered in a different way?
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Post by: Hamish on March 10, 2024, 12:03:29 pm
Willie, I have my bows stored away, not very accessible at the moment, or I would have a look. From memory the Accles bows look similar to the one in the photo, quite slender, whilst the Seefab ones are a little wider.  The Accles are black or green, two models , the Merlin, and maybe the Falcon. Seefabs  are an ochre/ orange colour paint.

The limbs are tillered/tapered, by being drawn into shape(like you thought), rather than subtractive work like you do with a wood bow. The bows could easily and consistently be manufactured as opposed to needing a bowyer to individually work each bow.

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Post by: WhistlingBadger on March 10, 2024, 12:09:04 pm
Interesting!  The double string nock, I believe, is there so you can use a second long string as a stringer.  I used to have a wooden bow with double nocks and it took calling the maker to learn why.   ;D

Those blunts are cool looking.  Are the "points" wood?  Self-carved or glued on? 
Was the beer part of the set?  ;)
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Post by: Selfbowman on March 10, 2024, 02:45:00 pm
Ya the blunts are part of the shaft on some with cork on the ends I think. Plastic knock so probably early 50s guessing.
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Post by: Hamish on March 10, 2024, 09:23:29 pm
Here's a nice link re: metal bows. It has more information about manufacture, brands and models. It mentions Tru Temper Bows a US company that made bows from tubing as well. https://www.bow-international.com/features/the-history-of-metal-bows/
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Post by: DQ on March 10, 2024, 09:47:37 pm

Those arrows may be Popin Jay blunts. Made for a game of shooting a live bird tethered to the top of a pole.
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Post by: hammerstone on March 13, 2024, 11:28:42 am
Somewhere around here i have a similar arrow that was made in Germany , at least it has German writing on it
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Post by: medicinewheel on March 19, 2024, 06:06:57 am
Careful with shooting this bow! - From all I know these old tubular steelbows have a tendency to explode without any signe of warning when drawn due to corrosion on the inside!
I once met someone with a personal experience. Not nice at all...
Title: Re: How old and made where???
Post by: Selfbowman on March 24, 2024, 01:33:46 pm
Heck the shock when I shot it was enough for me.🤠🤠🤠