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Title: Possible new bow start
Post by: Pat B on February 29, 2024, 12:23:56 pm
The first pic is the trunk of an osage tree I planter 15 to 20 years ago. The second pic is of the crown of the tree and the  shoot on the right I will cut soon . It is about 2" in diameter and I'm hoping to make 2 pole bows from it. I'll keep y'all posted with my progress.
(https://i.imgur.com/HgMjzgb.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/fj4N9H3.jpg)
Title: Re: Possible new bow start
Post by: superdav95 on February 29, 2024, 12:27:30 pm
I’ll be watching
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Post by: Will B on February 29, 2024, 06:37:31 pm
I’ve learned a great deal from you Pat on this site and I’ll be watching.
Title: Re: Possible new bow start
Post by: Pat B on March 01, 2024, 12:13:44 am
I hope I don't disappoint, Guys.  :OK
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Post by: bentstick54 on March 01, 2024, 01:20:54 am
I too have learned a lot from you Pat. I’ll definitely be watching.
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Post by: Selfbowman on March 01, 2024, 09:00:43 am
Pat I will be watching also. You are getting the pop ups too I see. They change when you reopen the post. First time it was a photo showing a lady with robust breast laying on her back with quote saying are camping photos going to far. I don’t think that was part of your post between to pics .
Title: Re: Possible new bow start
Post by: Pat B on March 01, 2024, 12:28:42 pm
I don't know where it is all coming from or how it got here but is really is a distraction.
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Post by: Kidder on March 01, 2024, 05:57:46 pm
Pat I will be watching also. You are getting the pop ups too I see. They change when you reopen the post. First time it was a photo showing a lady with robust breast laying on her back with quote saying are camping photos going to far. I don’t think that was part of your post between to pics .
They must be tailoring them to your search history. What have you been up to Arvin?!?! ;)

On a serious note - I am excited to follow as well. Nice to see the plantings producing. Everyone tries to discourage from planting bow wood due to the time for return, but this shows it’s worth it on some level.
Title: Re: Possible new bow start
Post by: superdav95 on March 02, 2024, 11:44:36 am
Ya this is very cool to see actually.  Not often you see a build from a tree that the builder planted himself
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Post by: bjrogg on March 02, 2024, 01:06:23 pm
That tree tells me you have been at this awhile Pat. You have helped us so much. Thanks for answering the same questions over and over for all those years and still doing it.

Look forward to seeing whatever you do with it.

Bjrogg
Title: Re: Possible new bow start
Post by: Pat B on March 02, 2024, 02:36:46 pm
I'm heading down to do more clearing along our driveway so I'll go ahead and cut this shoot. I'll document the process as I go along.
 Guys, I appreciate the good words. I learned this stuff by asking questions and helpful folks contributed to my knowledge. That is what PA is so good about, folks helping folks so lets keep it up for others to soak up the knowledge.  :OK
Title: Re: Possible new bow start
Post by: Pat B on March 02, 2024, 05:06:09 pm
I cut the shoot today. I'll give it a few days to quit oozing sticky sap then saw it to length, cut in half lengthwise then bind the 2 halves back together with spacers between to all for good air circulation to aid the drying process. Looking at the rings it is 7 years old with 5 heartwood rings and 2 sapwood rings. I'll use the sapwood ring under the bark as the back. Here are a few pics of the downed pole...
(https://i.imgur.com/EfrbG06.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gfb2d4w.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/KbNDDpc.jpg)
Title: Re: Possible new bow start
Post by: Hamish on March 02, 2024, 05:08:49 pm
Pat that is a nice stave, going to be good bows, for sure.
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Post by: bjrogg on March 02, 2024, 06:00:47 pm
Pat that is a nice stave, going to be good bows, for sure.

I agree. It looks like you could go to a heart wood ring if you wanted to.

Long enough you could probably get four bendy handles.

Nice stave. Will b watching for this one in the future.

Bjrogg
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Post by: superdav95 on March 02, 2024, 08:03:14 pm
Yup. Gona be nice
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Post by: Del the cat on March 05, 2024, 07:54:20 am
I'll take one half if you like ;)  ;D ::) ???
Del
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Post by: Muskyman on March 05, 2024, 09:45:54 am
Nice straight looking piece of wood there Pat. I wasn’t aware you could use a sap ring for the back on a sapling. Now I’ve got to ask how long will you have to dry it before you can make your bow.
Title: Re: Possible new bow start
Post by: superdav95 on March 05, 2024, 10:22:01 am
Pat.  Have you considered a semi hollow limb build?  I think it could be a good candidate for this with higher crown worked down to one of those fatter heartwood rings.  Fwiw
Title: Re: Possible new bow start
Post by: Pat B on March 05, 2024, 01:05:28 pm
Dave, I've never tried a HLD. I'll have to think about it.
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Post by: Pat B on March 09, 2024, 02:30:23 pm
After the pole sat in the basement for a week I went down today and cut it to 6" then sawed it in half lengthwise. You can see from the pics that there is already tension in the halves. I sealed the ends of both halves and bound them back together. I added spacers between the halves but there was so much tension that some of the spacers fell out but the air space is still there. Now the waiting begins. I'd like to give these halves at least 2 months to at lease fry some before I start on a bow. Here are a few pics...
(https://i.imgur.com/QaXsJwp.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/BsPF1KU.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OuJ84Lk.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2PWBwwO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/OkOEnTN.jpg)
Title: Re: Possible new bow start
Post by: Muskyman on March 09, 2024, 03:44:48 pm
I’m watching this pretty closely Pat. I might have a sapling I can harvest that’s similar to yours. At least the guy said I could have it. Haven’t talked with him for awhile but I think it’ll happen. I’m guessing you sawed it into with a bandsaw?
Title: Re: Possible new bow start
Post by: Pat B on March 09, 2024, 06:36:41 pm
Yes, I used my bandsaw to saw it in half. I was sure there wasn't and twist to it so it should be good to go.
 There was an article in an old PA magazine called "Limbows" by Dane Snodgrass. It was about a guy named Sonny Imens(sp?) that built bows similar to these. That's where I got the idea for these bows. I got to see a few of Sonny's bows and know a few people that have them and they are quite impressive.
Title: Re: Possible new bow start
Post by: superdav95 on March 10, 2024, 12:28:33 am
should be cool to watch this build.  drying time will drive us nuts but good things come to those who wait they say. 8)
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Post by: wooddamon1 on March 10, 2024, 04:07:57 pm
Pretty cool seeing bows made by the guy who planted the trees, Pat. Looking forward to seeing what you come up with.
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Post by: Will B on March 10, 2024, 07:51:37 pm
Very interested in how this turns out. Thanks for posting Pat.
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Post by: Pappy on March 10, 2024, 09:47:08 pm
Nice start, love them limb bows, I knew Sonny and he built some beautiful bow most all from limbs, he was a great guy to boot.  :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: Possible new bow start
Post by: Pat B on March 10, 2024, 11:50:52 pm
I got to meet Sonny years ago at Friendship, Ind. and saw a few of his bows then. Sonny's LImbows got me interested in these bows and they work amazingly well.