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Title: Osage color
Post by: Muskyman on March 11, 2023, 07:51:33 pm
Started chasing a ring on a few billets I’m planning on making into a takedown bow and the first one I chose has good rings but the wood is different colors. Normal? Or is it just a bad piece of wood.

First picture is after applying polyurethane second is before applying polyurethane
Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: Muskyman on March 11, 2023, 07:53:52 pm
Picture #2
Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: Muskyman on March 11, 2023, 07:55:09 pm
Rings
Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: Muskyman on March 11, 2023, 07:58:44 pm
This is the billet I was chasing the ring on. The first ring picture is the second billet I’ll be chasing the ring on

Thinking about chasing a ring or two down to see if the color gets better. Or do you think it’s okay
Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: superdav95 on March 11, 2023, 09:04:54 pm
It is probably just a reaction to the poly with that piece of wood.  If the rings are good then go for it. 
Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: Muskyman on March 11, 2023, 09:31:09 pm
Some of the wood was darker then the normal Osage color and seemed funny when I was chasing the ring. This picture is before the polyurethane
Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: Hamish on March 12, 2023, 03:04:58 am
Terrible wood. Send it to me and I'll get rid of it for you...Hehe. ;)
Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: superdav95 on March 12, 2023, 08:44:32 am
Mike. I might also be inclined to get two bows out of that stave. 
Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: bjrogg on March 12, 2023, 08:50:43 am
Mike. I might also be inclined to get two bows out of that stave.



I was thinking the same Dave, but it can be risky. If it splits good it should work.

I have had some Osage with that color that really performed well. It was more streaky than that thought and the streaks seemed to keep growing in size and color once exposed to sunlight.

I hope that’s the case for you

Bjrogg
Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: bjrogg on March 12, 2023, 08:54:10 am
I have noticed that splitting those staves with thick late wood and thin early wood are trickier to split. The ones with thicker early wood usually behave pretty predictably.

The thinner the early wood the more unpredictable the split.

Bjrogg
Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: Muskyman on March 12, 2023, 10:19:01 am
It’s actually a billet. It’s about 40 inches long. I’ve got five of them from when I cut Osage late September last year. Actually just trying to get them closer to size hoping they’ll dry out faster and then I’ll tuck them away for another 3-4 months. The early/lighter wood was the brown color that is showing in the billet. I was concerned that it might be funky..
Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: superdav95 on March 12, 2023, 02:04:08 pm
This is where I might be tempted to split theses billets.
Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: Muskyman on March 12, 2023, 04:34:41 pm
It’s only about 3 inches tall Dave.. I’d be scared to completely trash it and I’ve got five total billets so I’m going to just play it safe.. got the other one chased today. Now probably do a little limb shaping then tuck them away till late summer
Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: Muskyman on March 13, 2023, 02:36:19 pm
Was talking these down a little and I’m thinking I might have a bug problem with one of them..
Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: Muskyman on March 13, 2023, 02:39:09 pm
Another spot
Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: Muskyman on March 13, 2023, 02:45:09 pm
Also the brown looking wood is pretty dry and crunchy. Might have to try another piece. Tried to get it off but might go to deep into the billet to be viable for what I want to do.
Might be on to plan B
Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: bjrogg on March 13, 2023, 02:56:05 pm
Just looking on my phone, but I’m thinking wind checks.

From my understanding they are caused by the wind twisting the tree while it’s growing.

If they are not running off the edge they should be ok. I treat them like drying checks. Fill them with thin CA glue.

If they are delaminating grains I might be more concerned with them.

Bjrogg
Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: bjrogg on March 13, 2023, 03:13:50 pm
I have one I’ll post

Does it look like this?

Bjrogg
Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: bjrogg on March 13, 2023, 03:57:59 pm
These go all the way through my stave.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: Muskyman on March 13, 2023, 04:31:34 pm
They kind do. I’m hoping I can cut them out before I get close to limb thickness.. hope you’re right Bjrogg. The brown wood is worrisome too. If I had more experience with the wood I might not sweat it so much.. It just seems really dry and crunchy. I took a lot of it off and it seems better.. might take another billet down and work it down and see if it’s better..
Thanks for the photo and thoughts on this.
Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: bjrogg on March 13, 2023, 04:55:38 pm
If they are going through your stave from back to belly and running length ways. They will probably be fine.

Reduce your stave. If you still have them soak them really good with thin super glue. Let it run in from every direction and then let it sit a day.

Then it should be fine.

If they are running between rings from side to side of the stave. Delaminating. Then I would be more concerned.

Bjrogg
Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: Eric Krewson on March 13, 2023, 06:33:04 pm
Wind shakes, it is rare osage tree I cut that doesn't have them, I just work around them.

This is a bad example of what I cut, I get good staves or billets on either side of the cracks.



Title: Re: Osage color
Post by: Muskyman on March 13, 2023, 07:43:16 pm
Thanks Eric, that’s similar to what the piece looks like that I got this from. It had a side that had lots of brown wood on it. Starting to feel better about it with all the knowledge about the wood coming my way from this site.. It’s what makes it such a great site. Can’t find answers for questions like this in a book or online..
Thanks