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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: M2A on January 28, 2023, 01:01:03 pm

Title: 56 lb Black Locust
Post by: M2A on January 28, 2023, 01:01:03 pm
There is nothing fancy about this style but for reasons unknown have had an interest in it since I had first seen it. The Choctaw Nation of Oklahoma refers to it as the Grayson Bow. As its in the Grayson collection #1995-0679. If you have spent any time looking into woodland style bows I'm sure you have seen a picture or drawing. Its the 3rd bow I completed of this style, but none from Osage yet. This bow, that I made, was made from a knot free, rather straight grained, with thick rings but short piece of locust. This particular tree is some of the best locust I have cut but most staves have some pin knots or other character that would not make this style well. Seemed like a good challenge, for me, to try and make a locust bow under 60". 57.5" ntn  was all I was going to be able to get so it was the perfect piece for the style.

I didn't have plans to copy the paint job from the original but after shooting it in and being very happy with the cast I figured why not. Black paint is made from charcoal with egg yolk as a binder. Not the strongest binder and it may ware over time but that's ok. Handle wrap is made from 12' of dogbane cordage I spent 3 evenings of my shop time twisting up. its set into a bed of TBIII I applied to the wood before adding the string, then melted bees wax over top of the cordage. So a bit of TB and the poly string are not very primitive but the rest of the build is.

I was not trying to make an exact copy, but using what I have to make it work. Being Locust I trapped the back 1/8" on both sides. As far as the nocks, the top nock was all that I had to work with and theres a knot in the lower one that I did not want to cut threw so its a bit off centered. Pretty happy with the tiller, while the unbraced profile weather rested or just unstrung is pretty much even. Maybe .5" of temperary set after unstringing. Theres a small amount of natural reflex near the nocks that keeps it from having any string follow. Going to revisit this design down the road for sure. I have some thoughts and ideas on how I can improve upon my version of it and maybe even evolve it into something different. Anyways interested what you all think, good or bad. I'm just having fun and making eastern woodland style bows is some of the most fun I can have. Some of the pictures didn't turn out like I had wanted, The winter sun set can make things look real good or fog out the picture, I'll have to work on that. Had a hard time figuring out which pics to put in so pretty much going to put them all in here, figure you guys like pictures as much as I do:) Thanks, Mike
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Title: Re: 56 lb Black Locust
Post by: Pat B on January 28, 2023, 01:05:04 pm
Nice design and beautiful bend in this little BL bow, Mike.  :OK
Title: Re: 56 lb Black Locust
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 28, 2023, 01:32:01 pm
That is just awesome. Very nice tiller. Just beautiful. Jawge
Title: Re: 56 lb Black Locust
Post by: joachimM on January 28, 2023, 01:40:54 pm
Very nice bow, and I love the paintjob you did there!

Title: Re: 56 lb Black Locust
Post by: Aksel on January 28, 2023, 02:06:56 pm
Very nice primitive bow: simple looking yet complex to make. Bend in the handle bows with a narrowed grip takes some skill. Very good looking. Inspiring to see, might want to try one myself.
Title: Re: 56 lb Black Locust
Post by: Little John on January 28, 2023, 02:12:00 pm
  Wow, that turned out really nice, I have yet to make a bend in the handle bow, hopefully soon.
Title: Re: 56 lb Black Locust
Post by: Aaron1726 on January 28, 2023, 02:23:52 pm
Nice!  The artwork and dogbane wrap are a nice touch, that's a beautiful bow.
Title: Re: 56 lb Black Locust
Post by: PaSteve on January 28, 2023, 02:25:02 pm
Beauty Mike. Excellent tiller.
Title: Re: 56 lb Black Locust
Post by: bradsmith2010 on January 28, 2023, 04:54:08 pm
beautiful bow,, congrats
Title: Re: 56 lb Black Locust
Post by: bentstick54 on January 28, 2023, 06:47:48 pm
Very nice looking bow. One of these days I need to try that style. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: 56 lb Black Locust
Post by: Will B on January 28, 2023, 06:50:41 pm
That’s a great looking bow. Love the tiller and art work. Thanks for posting all the photos.
Title: Re: 56 lb Black Locust
Post by: M2A on January 29, 2023, 08:56:26 am
Thank you guys! I guess I forgot to say its tillered out to 27" @ the 56 lbs. Hope to come across another stave in the pile to make another but have a couple other projects to finish up. Always enjoy seeing everyones work. Thanks again Mike   
Title: Re: 56 lb Black Locust
Post by: bjrogg on January 29, 2023, 10:31:46 am
Really nice job on that one Mike.

Can’t find anything I don’t like about it.

A bunch I do like about it starting with the tiller.

Bjrogg
Title: Re: 56 lb Black Locust
Post by: Pappy on January 29, 2023, 05:54:01 pm
Beautiful work on that one, till looks very good to me.  :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: 56 lb Black Locust
Post by: superdav95 on January 29, 2023, 11:35:21 pm
That’s an authentic looking little bow.  Looks like the real deal with perfect tiller.  Very nice. 
Title: Re: 56 lb Black Locust
Post by: M2A on January 30, 2023, 08:11:35 am
Thanks BJ, Pappy and Dave.
Mike
Title: Re: 56 lb Black Locust
Post by: Allyn T on January 30, 2023, 08:48:14 am
I dig it man
Title: Re: 56 lb Black Locust
Post by: Selfbowman on January 30, 2023, 10:29:14 am
As they say on the forge. That will kill!
Title: Re: 56 lb Black Locust
Post by: M2A on January 31, 2023, 10:12:06 pm
Thanks you Allyn and Selfbowman!
Mike
Title: Re: 56 lb Black Locust
Post by: organic_archer on February 01, 2023, 10:46:04 am
Beautifully recreated! I recognize the design from the Encyclopedias! Really nice tiller, too! Enjoy  (SH)