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Title: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: Pat B on May 16, 2008, 04:00:10 pm
 Well, this is what I get for being too impatient and trying to force things.  ::) >:(
   This is a mulberry stave from the same piece Hillbilly gave me that I made Lil Tigre' with. It is 49" t/t and I have been working for the last 2 days on straightening the stave and putting the recurves in and lining them up. All with dry heat and olive oil. After a bit more limb tapering I put a tiller string on it and put it on the tree. Things were looking good; bending a bit more here than there but basically looking good. I thought a short brace was in order and with the string an inch above the belly the bow was mostly lining up except for the handle area which I had anticipated. ;D
  This is where the pigheaded impatience comes in! ::)  I figured a bit more brace height was called for and shortened the string and began to brac......BANG!!! :o expletives deleted!!! :(...and I know better. ::)    Gosh, she was gonna be nice too. My intentions were a bendy handle, sinew backed, shorty recurve...and all I got was a learned lesson...I hope it sunk in!     Pat

ps. I know I could do this or that to "fix" the problem but I'm not gonna. I'm gonna place it where I can see it when I go into my shop.

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Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: Dano on May 16, 2008, 04:29:50 pm
I did the same thing with a recurve once too, hung it on the wall of shame as well.  :'( Now get out to the shop a build another!!
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: Pat B on May 16, 2008, 05:04:23 pm
Dano, I took your advise and see where it got me! >:(     SHOP CLOSED for TODAY!!! ;)
   Two in one day. I must be living right! ;D       Pat

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Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: Ryano on May 16, 2008, 05:58:12 pm
Thats just bad luck..... :o
Hapens every now and then just to remind you this is "wood" your dealing with.....its never a sure thing.
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: Pat B on May 16, 2008, 06:01:54 pm
I haven't broken many so when they do break, like this osage, it does get your attention.  :o ;D I have had many "badly bent" bows in my time! ;D     Pat

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Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: cowboy on May 16, 2008, 06:10:01 pm
Well durnnit! and a nice lookin peice of wood too. Finally loaded up some BL I got from Dingleberry and another from be darned if I can remember. Anyway - hope I don't wind up with the same results :).
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: Hillbilly on May 16, 2008, 06:16:08 pm
Pat, I'm sure glad that I've never done anything like that.  ::)  :) Paul, you got one locust stave from me.
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: recurve shooter on May 16, 2008, 06:54:01 pm
i caint find any streight locust. all the stuff here looks like its been tied in knots. :P
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: El Destructo on May 16, 2008, 07:04:19 pm
i caint find any streight locust. all the stuff here looks like its been tied in knots. :P

               Yah-ont sum?? I think that how you Suthin Boyz says it......Got me's a bunch a dat Lucust wuud!!!!

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Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: Pat B on May 16, 2008, 07:23:35 pm
Dats honey locust!  ;) Yankee
Paul. The second one is the bow Kenneth was shooting that morning(Sunday?) we all went around.
RS. All of our locust is straight but it has bore all through it as it grows.
  Steve, well, one or 2, maybe! ;D    Pat
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: Justin Snyder on May 16, 2008, 07:31:23 pm
When it rains it pours.   :'( I think I can relate to that.  Justin
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: El Destructo on May 16, 2008, 08:18:34 pm
Yep....it's Honey Locust alright....Jest said I had a Bunch of Locust.....I already too one set of Billets down to a single Growth Ring....and have the two pieces notched and ready for Glue-Up.....I cant beleive that they are almost dry already!!
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: RG on May 16, 2008, 08:29:33 pm
Pat I broke an osage and a hickory within 20 minutes one day I just found some of that Tn. spring water and forgot
about wood for several hours

Ron
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: radius on May 16, 2008, 09:10:09 pm
make the least of all that goes, my brother
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: cowboy on May 16, 2008, 09:20:31 pm
Aha! Steve - I've been rackinig my brain trying to remember who gave me that one ;D. Too bad about that bow Pat, sure was shootin good for Keneth - may it rest in peace O:).
 So Yankee, have you gotten a bow made of that honey locust yet? I've been ponderin cuttin down a few :).
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: Ryano on May 16, 2008, 09:34:38 pm
You jinx me Pat!  >:( I screwed up my bamboo backed erc, I know, I didnt take your advise to slow down....lol.   :o
She blew big frets right at the fade on the one side I pulled on her to much before the rest of the limb was working...
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: Pat B on May 16, 2008, 09:48:52 pm
Its becoming a pandemic!!! :o   Run for your lives. ;D     Pat
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: Hillbilly on May 16, 2008, 09:56:43 pm
Well, I was planning on trying to finish tillering my latest osage bow tomorrow, but y'all are putting a lot of bad vibes out...... :o
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: mullet on May 16, 2008, 10:37:13 pm
  Got me worried now too. I have that Hickory I started at Pappy's at 65# @24". I wanted to finish it this weekend. I might hold off now.
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: n2everythg on May 16, 2008, 11:12:04 pm
I aint touching nothin' for least a week after reading this thread....

Man Pat... bum luck. chin up tho.
later.
n2
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: El Destructo on May 17, 2008, 12:09:13 am
Well I aint Askeerd ah no Bad Luck.....I gots me a Hickory Backed Birdseye Maple Stave glued up with 4 inched of reflex in it....and I just think I will cut Her out tomorrow and make me a Flipped Tip Paddle Bow out of it.... 2 1/2" wide and all nice and Bendy through the Handle too .....I'll keep you Guys posted......

Cowboy.....I have that one set of Billets all ready to glue together....and all of the rest of it is just sitting and curing....waiting to see what this one turns out like ....before I do anything with the Others....

Mullet..I got the Chainsaw sharpened tonight....and I am going Hunting Mesquite tomorrow......I will keep You posted....The Boo lost a few leaves....but I think it is still going to make it..... Thanks again Eddie
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: Ryano on May 17, 2008, 12:44:34 am
I think I may have solved my problem well at least for the time being. I ground out the damaged wood and glued in a patch.

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Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: Pat B on May 17, 2008, 12:59:05 am
Ron, I had to wait til the sun went down but now Mr Evan Williams is consoling me.  ;D  That man knows what hes doing! ;) I do have a bit of spring water from Shannon in the freezer just in case.  8)
  Radius, believe me, that phrase has kept me going for over 40 years. My mantra! 8)
   One of the next bows on the tarmac is a very snaky guava bow with worm holes. I might just put that on the back burner for a while. ;D     Oh well, we'll see what tomorrow brings.       Pat

ps. cool Ryan Take it slow!!! ;)
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: Dano on May 17, 2008, 01:14:42 am
Next time please don't take my advice Pat. I'm working on my first bendy handled bow, osage, so I may survive your jinx.
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: Pat B on May 17, 2008, 01:18:42 am
Dano, If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy! (another mantra of mine!)     Pat
ps  Good luck on your endeavor, Dano!
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: Dano on May 17, 2008, 01:21:45 am


Thank you my friend.
"If the women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy!" Greater words were never spoken. ;D
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: D. Tiller on May 17, 2008, 02:19:57 am
Me Neva broke nu'en! Me PAAAAIIIITTTTIIIEEENNNTTT!!!!  ;D

I am sure now that I said this the next bow will blow on me!  ;)

Sorry to hear about the bow Pat. Just remember its only a hunk of wood with hours and hours and hours of your time and effort put into it! Now try translating that into how much ya make in an hour!!!!  >:D

Sorry, sometimes I just cant help myself!  O:)

David T
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: DanaM on May 17, 2008, 07:39:53 am
Crap happens eh Pat, I don't have to worry about breaking any wood unless its a shovel handle, wife has had me busy getting the garden in
and planting some plum trees she had to have. When I'm done with all my chores I get to cook dinner also. All I've had time to do is a little chippin.
I have to casement windows to put in then a remodel of the living room etc. Hopefully buy hunting season I will have some free time :)
Title: Re: pigheaded impatience!
Post by: Justin Snyder on May 17, 2008, 10:53:05 am
Me Neva broke nu'en! Me PAAAAIIIITTTTIIIEEENNNTTT!!!!  ;D

I am sure now that I said this the next bow will blow on me!  ;)

David T
David, be patient, you will get your opportunity to explode one.  The only way to not break one is to quit building them.  Justin