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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: OsageWhisper on March 30, 2022, 11:14:20 am

Title: Bowstring material for a Nomadic Pirate bow
Post by: OsageWhisper on March 30, 2022, 11:14:20 am
Team a while back I has lucky to get a Guava d/r longbow from Manny, I want to get a new string , does anyone know if they are fastflight capable

Thank you
Pete
Title: Re: Bowstring material for a Nomadic Pirate bow
Post by: Hamish on March 30, 2022, 07:17:24 pm
 I would need to see the nocks, and the new string. If its plain old self nocks you would really be risking damage. If it has overlays its probably ff compatible(if properly made).

You can make a fastflight string with more strands, or pad out the loops to reduce the chance of the string cutting into self nocks. By doing this you reduce the weight/speed advantage that FF has, over older material strings.

If in doubt use Dacron
Title: Re: Bowstring material for a Nomadic Pirate bow
Post by: RyanY on March 30, 2022, 08:02:14 pm
Most people these days report no issues with fast flight like D97 even with self nocks. Organic Archer recently posted that he got a spool of fast flight that chewed through his nocks. I think I recall him doing some hardwood overlays on some of those guava bows. Was this a recent order? Would be cool to see his recent work if he’s still making bows.
Title: Re: Bowstring material for a Nomadic Pirate bow
Post by: bambule on March 31, 2022, 03:04:13 am
 I use FF-Strings for the last 15 years for my wooden bows without any problem. FF is a little bit like linen which was used in the medieval times for warbows. A heartwoodoverlay or hornoverlay can help preventing a splinter or you can use more strands, maybe of Dacron for the loop.

Greetz
Cord
Title: Re: Bowstring material for a Nomadic Pirate bow
Post by: bownarra on March 31, 2022, 04:15:46 am
If the nocks are made right dyneema based strings are not a problem.
Title: Re: Bowstring material for a Nomadic Pirate bow
Post by: bownarra on March 31, 2022, 04:17:02 am
Natural fiber strings (linen/hemp) have similar stretch to dyneema once broken in but nobody ever says is my bow ok for a hemp string ;) ;)
Title: Re: Bowstring material for a Nomadic Pirate bow
Post by: bradsmith2010 on March 31, 2022, 04:49:59 pm
maybe just put a sinew wrap below string grooves,,
Title: Re: Bowstring material for a Nomadic Pirate bow
Post by: bassman211 on March 31, 2022, 05:37:01 pm
Pad the loops if your unsure, I use d97   a lot of my wood tipped  self bows, but no nothing of that bow wood.
Title: Re: Bowstring material for a Nomadic Pirate bow
Post by: organic_archer on April 02, 2022, 08:52:12 pm
I’ve used D97 double loop Flemish strings on hundreds of selfbows without issue. No overlays, just smooth transitions on the nocks without any sharp edges.

The only FF material that’s ever given me trouble was Brownell Fury. For whatever reason, it chewed into the tips of 3 bows in a row.
Title: Re: Bowstring material for a Nomadic Pirate bow
Post by: Gordon on April 03, 2022, 04:50:34 pm
Been using FF as a string material for years without issue. I do pad the loops somewhat if making a string for a self nocked bow.
Title: Re: Bowstring material for a Nomadic Pirate bow
Post by: JW_Halverson on April 03, 2022, 05:03:01 pm
Most people these days report no issues with fast flight like D97 even with self nocks. Organic Archer recently posted that he got a spool of fast flight that chewed through his nocks. I think I recall him doing some hardwood overlays on some of those guava bows. Was this a recent order? Would be cool to see his recent work if he’s still making bows.

Manny is busy being married and respectable these days.  ;D