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Title: What does White oak like?
Post by: Russ on August 26, 2020, 09:16:41 am
so im on my last "good" stave. good meaning i have a good chance to make a bow out of it and its white oak. i was just wondering what do you need to do to white oak to make it a nice shooter. Im gonna put static recurves on it but should i heat treat it? put reflex in it? how wide do i make it? thanks!
Title: Re: What does White oak like?
Post by: Pat B on August 26, 2020, 10:55:05 am
Russell, treat white oak like hickory. Heat treating would be good as would reflex. You can do both at the same time.  1 1/2" to 2" wide.
Title: Re: What does White oak like?
Post by: Russ on August 26, 2020, 11:18:22 am
ive never worked hickory... can you explain a little more???
Title: Re: What does White oak like?
Post by: Pat B on August 26, 2020, 11:35:53 am
1 1/2" to 2" wide at the fade and out about 8" then taper to the tip or a straight taper from the fades. Depending on your draw length I'd go 64" to 68" for 28" draw and 62" to 66" for 26" draw for either the semi-pyramid or pyramid style.
Title: Re: What does White oak like?
Post by: Russ on August 26, 2020, 12:25:11 pm
ok thanks!!
Title: Re: What does White oak like?
Post by: bownarra on August 26, 2020, 01:26:16 pm
Forget recurving, reflexing etc until you have made a handful of good straight bows :)
Make a heat treated pyramid, straight side profile to start with.
tillering is hard enough to learn without adding diffficulties.
To answer your question - just tillering it well, going slowly and not ever overstraining any part of it will yield a good shooting bow. No need for fancy stuff yet ;)
Title: Re: What does White oak like?
Post by: Morgan on August 26, 2020, 08:59:45 pm
Forget recurving, reflexing etc until you have made a handful of good straight bows :)
Make a heat treated pyramid, straight side profile to start with.
tillering is hard enough to learn without adding diffficulties.
To answer your question - just tillering it well, going slowly and not ever overstraining any part of it will yield a good shooting bow. No need for fancy stuff yet ;)

This 100%! If you are starting out or have few successful bows under your belt,  A good shooting straight limbed stick bow is infinitely better than a beautifully recurved piece of firewood. I’m my experience; With a sound clean stave, if you take you work slowly and never over stress any area of the wood, disasters are rare. The more stressed a design and bigger hurry you get in, increases probability of failure.
Title: Re: What does White oak like?
Post by: bushboy on August 26, 2020, 09:25:34 pm
I would go
..4" handle.
..1-1/2 long fades...2-1/4 wide.   Parrelle taper for12"...and 64" long.floor tiller it...
Heat treat...
Title: Re: What does White oak like?
Post by: Russ on August 27, 2020, 05:21:37 pm
i cant get a 2 1/2 wide bow out of this.... its gonna be hard to get 1 1/2 even
Title: Re: What does White oak like?
Post by: Pat B on August 27, 2020, 05:41:57 pm
Then make it a little longer, Russell.
Title: Re: What does White oak like?
Post by: Russ on August 27, 2020, 06:37:29 pm
Sounds good!!! just drew out the basic rough sketch of the bow. gonna go back and make it more precise later
Title: Re: What does White oak like?
Post by: bushboy on August 27, 2020, 06:38:04 pm
If the stave is narrow then I would go with a D bow.
Title: Re: What does White oak like?
Post by: Russ on August 27, 2020, 07:00:14 pm
yeah, my only concern is that there is a good size knot otherwise i would do a bend in the handle D bow. ill get a pic up when i can.
Title: Re: What does White oak like?
Post by: Pat B on August 27, 2020, 08:33:26 pm
You can have a stiff handle that only gives when you hit full draw. With a bulbous handle the actual handle center is rigid and the fades work barely at full draw.
Title: Re: What does White oak like?
Post by: Russ on August 27, 2020, 08:39:30 pm
ahhh, ok that makes sense.... ill give it a go.