Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Loope on July 12, 2020, 03:17:01 pm
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I am wanting to make a surprise bow for a friend of my wife, but don't really know what dimensions/poundage to go for. Do you guys have "generic woman's bow specs" you use? I know that she is an avid compound shooter/hunter for what that is worth. She elk hunts with an Elite Ritual. I tried to look it up, and there are multiple configurations, but from what I could find, it seemed like minimum poundage available was 40#
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She elk hunts with an Elite Ritual. I tried to look it up, and there are multiple configurations, but from what I could find, it seemed like minimum poundage available was 40#
That poundage means little without knowing the let off at full draw. Lot of compounds these days drop 80+% of the draw weight so she might only be holding 8-12lb once drawn. How tall is she? If it was me I would shoot for 25-28lb @ 26" without knowing any more than you have shared. If you have her draw length then 25-28lb at that draw length would be my target.
Mark
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Agree 25-28lbs would probably be a safe comfortable range with the info you provided.
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Make a bow according to the persons draw length and intended draw weight. It doesn't matter if they are men, women, or children, make a bow for that person.
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Hamish we are close to the same thinking. If you can get her draw length 1” of limb for every inch of draw doubled. Plus the stiff handle length. If she is elk hunting with any bow that will kill a elk she can probably handle a 37-40# selfbow. The problem is she shooting a faster bow and that speed will not happen in the selfbow. Not what she is used to shooting. Unless she is devoted to going trad it probably will never happen unfortunately. Good luck with your build and her receiving the trad challenge. Arvin
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i agree with 25ish at 26ish,,
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Thanks,
Unfortunately I don't know her draw length or poundage, and don't have a way to get it without spoiling the surprise...
My wife draws 24" traditional, and her friend is a little bit taller. Based on the replies, I am thinking maybe at least build the bow for 26", and if she draws it less than that then it would be fine. I do not expect that she would want to hunt with it, so I would not target a "hunting weight" bow. That can start a whole discussion on its own.
I liked through my bow wood and the blanks I have in process, and settled on a nice osage blank that it ready for floor tiller. It is a stiff handle blank, with 4" handle and 2" faces, and currently has 29 inch limbs from fade to tips. So I would cut it down in length, and need to re-profile it for a lighter poundage. So if I were to go for about 30# @ 26", any suggestions on limb width as a starting point? I think I would cut the limbs down to about 27".
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For my women, I've made bows as tall as they are, about an inch wide, bend in the handle, do not narrow the handle, and 25# or so Kath their draw length. As a guide, my oldest daughter is 5'4" and has a draw length of 22".
The best thing to do is have it partially done at 30-35# and see of she can draw it. Then scrape off wood as needed.
Jawge
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The best thing to do is have it partially done at 30-35# and see of she can draw it.
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she has to be comfortable shooting the bow but it is better if she do not get the impression it's a toy
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Your wife could discretely find out her draw length, I think, especially if they shoot together! I would go for the legal draw weight in your state, that way if she wants to go trad, she's covered, or you get to make another bow (lol) :BB!
Hawkdancer
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If she's an average woman, I might actually say low 30s.
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Some Time I come in Lower draw weight for me, than I offen say: this bow is for my wife (lol)
She don't shoot often but 30 to 35# Don't make a Problem
Hans
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Once in a while I give a bunch of bows to the SCA. The requests from women are usually in the 35@28 range. If that helps at all.
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I still stand by my 25#@26 inches,, if she wants to draw it to 28,, it will be close to 30,,
my wife always liked the bow on the lighter side,, she didnt have to pull alot of weight to beat me,,
and she was stout for her size,,
I think alot of bows in the past were made to what the wood would give, and the archer adjust to that,, or made to make the best bow from given stave,, then the archer adjusted,,,Im just guessing,,on that
but the fiberglass bows made all to 28 inch draw is a good example,, the archer just adjust to the bow...Im not saying that is the best way,, but in this case with the lack of info,, a middle of road draw and weight,, will work,,
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Thanks for all the input guys. I am going to start modifying my blank tonight, take some width off and shorten the limbs a bit, then ready to start floor tiller.
I am going to start out for a little higher poundage... because I always seem to end up 5 or 6 pounds below my initial target :)
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I narrowed and shortened the limbs, thinking I would go for about 30 pounds. But hadn't started floor tillering yet.
My wife had the opportunity to see her friend, so I suggested that she just go ahead and spill the beans and ask draw length/poundage. I had just kept questioning myself on if whether it would fit her well enough that she could enjoy it as a shooter instead of a wall hanger.
It didn't really spoil the surprise, she was thrilled that I am going to make her a bow, and now she gets the joys of anticipation... And I have a better target for the build that I can really feel good with... 25# @ 25".
What do you guys do for arrows for these light bows? The lightest I can find is 30-35# spine POC. I thought I might buy those to try to work with. Does anyone have better recommendations for arrows?
Michael
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And I have a better target for the build that I can really feel good with... 25# @ 25".
What do you guys do for arrows for these light bows? The lightest I can find is 30-35# spine POC. I thought I might buy those to try to work with. Does anyone have better recommendations for arrows?
Michael
You could always make the bow a little long and pike it later if it’s too light for her. My wife is 5’6” with a 24 inch draw. Bow is about 28#.
I have found the POC arrows that are spined 30-35 a bit stiff in her bow. In fact cut to 27 inches and with a 75 grain point they shoot better out of a 40lb bow I have than her bow.
I have found some 25# bamboo shafts I will make into arrows for her.
I don’t know where you live but I would suggest trying to find a lighter spine, sanding the 30# ones a bit, or if she’s gonna hunt with the bow you could get away with a much heavier point - but coming from a compound might be better to ease her in with some lighter, faster arrows for the range first!!
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I would sand the arrows until they shoot well from the bow,, or scrape and then sand,,once u get one that shoots good you can make it match the others,, doesnt have to be exact,, just get it close so it flys good,, or if you have a spine tester make it exact,, I usually just bend it by hand for something like that,, and get it to fly good,,
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I ordered the 30-35 POC last night. So when they arrive, there will be some scraping/sanding to do. I've got a spine tester, so will get some use from that, in addition to shooting. I haven't touched the bow in a few days, it is still in the ready for floor tiller stage, but plan to make progress this coming week.
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Once in a while I give a bunch of bows to the SCA. The requests from women are usually in the 35@28 range. If that helps at all.
This is about what I would tiller it to for her.
Edit: nevermind, just saw the post of where you found out her actual draw.