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Title: Black Locust war bow???
Post by: african man on April 23, 2008, 08:07:29 am
I am wanting to make a war bow  70-80# @ 32"
I have a nice stave of black locust and am wondering if it will work as an English war bow, if so what are the rough dimensions. Could I also change the design slightly to accommodate the wood, lenticular or flatter cross section instead of D shaped ?
Thanks
Chris
     
Title: Re: Black Locust war bow???
Post by: akila on April 24, 2008, 08:55:27 pm
Hi...i dont have verry much experience with warr bow....but i  now that black locust its weack in compresion,. so i think that an Elb  design its not the best design for this type of wood....but maybe im wrong...so  you should see whatt others have to say aboute this///
Title: Re: Black Locust war bow???
Post by: kiwijim on April 29, 2008, 09:14:26 am
there was a post on paleoplanet a while ago. A big bad Bl warbow drawing around 100lb, and no frets!
Title: Re: Black Locust war bow???
Post by: african man on April 29, 2008, 02:51:24 pm
Thanks guys ;)
have started one will see how it goes

Chris
Title: Re: Black Locust war bow???
Post by: african man on May 01, 2008, 05:24:44 am
Just finished it the other day seems to work ;D
Just made it a bit more flatter than a traditional D section
Chris
Title: Re: Black Locust war bow???
Post by: Sparrow on May 04, 2008, 01:30:23 am
 Is that bow still alive and how's it shoot ?  Frank
Title: Re: Black Locust war bow???
Post by: Tom_Brone on May 04, 2008, 04:11:26 pm
If african man allows it I will answer in his place.

The bow is still alive, 84#@30".

Black Locust can definitely make a warbow.

Tom

Title: Re: Black Locust war bow???
Post by: african man on May 04, 2008, 07:01:33 pm
Thanks Tom (how's your new Ebay stave doing)

Yes my bow is doing well, I think due to the fact that I gave her a flat belly. I'm going to make two more war bows out of B.L, one will be a full D limb and one will be half way between a D limb and what I made now, I will then know what B.L can take

The spec :- 76" ntn  1 1/2" at handle tapering to 1/2" at tips   started with 2 1/4" reflex, now + - 1/2" reflex(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk87/africanman2/war%20bow/DSCN0798.jpg)(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk87/africanman2/war%20bow/DSCN0794.jpg)
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk87/africanman2/war%20bow/DSCN0795.jpg)
Title: Re: Black Locust war bow???
Post by: david w. on May 04, 2008, 10:05:21 pm
suberb bow! very nice tiller :)
Title: Re: Black Locust war bow???
Post by: akila on May 06, 2008, 04:30:31 am
HI....verry nice bow and nice tiller.....this is the proof that you have to try it for your self first ,and see what happens....im verry curiose what will happent  with a true D section....aniway  you  did a gr8 job,
Title: Re: Black Locust war bow???
Post by: majsnuff on June 27, 2008, 10:52:36 am
My hat is off to you sir. Both Locust bows I  tried to build have failed. I still have 2 or 3 staves, and with your success I will try again.
You have done a very nice job there. Congratulations.
Title: Re: Black Locust war bow???
Post by: african man on June 27, 2008, 05:06:11 pm
Thanks majsnuff
I think some of the success was due to the flattened belly and also I think something to do with where the tree grew??? I have heard said that the growing conditions play a part in how the wood will react
Still busy with the other two bows, slowly, as I have an Ash war bow and a few others on the go at the moment
GOOD LUCK
Xris
Title: Re: Black Locust war bow???
Post by: Bowbound on July 03, 2008, 05:32:06 pm
That bow looks nice, Do you know if cherry is good warbow stuff, i have some and all i know is it is good in compression but not so good in tension.
Title: Re: Black Locust war bow???
Post by: markinengland on July 04, 2008, 03:07:51 pm
Africa Man,
What poundage did it end up?
Did you chase a growth ring or leave the sapwood on?
Nice tiller.
Mark in England
Title: Re: Black Locust war bow???
Post by: african man on July 04, 2008, 05:54:11 pm
Bowbound - I think cherry will work maybe flatten the belly a bit and back it with hicory or raw hide
Mark - landed up at just over 80#, I didn't leave any sap wood on but went down about three layers into the hart wood as it was a nice thick ring. I have found that if you leave sapwood on it seems to make the bow a bit sluggish :-\

Xris ;D
Title: Re: Black Locust war bow???
Post by: bootboy on August 07, 2008, 09:55:03 pm
nice bow mate. But wouldnt it be faster minus the horntips, and isnt Black Locust hard enough not to need them?
Title: Re: Black Locust war bow???
Post by: welch2 on August 08, 2008, 02:12:04 am
Anyone ever try black locust as a backing ?

Ralph
Title: Re: Black Locust war bow???
Post by: skerm on August 09, 2008, 03:48:31 am
I plan to, but I still need to wait a month or so for it to dry.

Daniel
Title: Re: Black Locust war bow???
Post by: african man on August 13, 2008, 05:28:52 am
nice bow mate. But wouldnt it be faster minus the horntips, and isnt Black Locust hard enough not to need them?

Yes it would be faster with out the horn tips and less hand shock, but I want it to look traditional  ::)
Anyone ever try black locust as a backing ?

Ralph
Haven't tried it but I suspect it will work (can't beat Hickory though )

Chris

PS have been making quite a few laminated war bows out of our indigenous woods and have had some good results, my other B.L war bow is still waiting to be finished  :-\