Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: backtowood B2W on November 27, 2019, 04:06:13 am
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One of my first bows was some kind similar to this design but with 21# at 25“, 60“ntn and maple. My wife shots it and I am always impressed by their performance! For sure a lucky hit.
So I wanted something similar in my size.
The Design is somehow a mixture of Holmegaard, Pyramid, and Sudbury. Sudbury handle and fades, Pyramid for the working limb, and Holmegaard for the outer.
Specs:
45#@26“
66“ntn
Max w.: almost 2“
Tips : 5/16“ - overlay - some unknown wood , could be some very dense palm wood
Handle: almost 6“ long
Fades: 3 1/2“ long
Eiffel Tower takes about 1/3 of the limb.
Cross section: starts heavy trapped at the fades, to rectangular after the shoulder, to square - 4“ before nocks. Nocks have an oval cross section.
Mass is 485g ( I calculated 622g with Steve Gardener´s mass calculator!)
The stave was 1“ deflexed and I flipped the outers to about 1“ reflex when I heat treated the belly and outers. Also I flattened out the hump in the dogleg with steam.
The Bow took about 1,5“ permanent set and 0,5“ dynamic set after unstringing.
This is my most reliable bow and if I would go hunting for real this would be my bow to go.
To honor its performance I stained with OO soup. This bright yellow will definitely cause some chats and I love to say : No it is not OO it is ASH! ( I had this already with an ash bow which looked like aged OO lol)
What do you think about design and tiller?
Thanks for your thoughts!
B2W
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some character
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thanks!
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Very cool!
Looks like I have cook some soup as well out of my first OO shavings ;D Wonder if the soup darkens like real OO over time...
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Nice bow.
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I like it. Good job!
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Looks nice. It sure does look like Osage. Very interesting. I would like to see it in a couple years to see if it darkens.
Bjrogg
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Good looking bow, bow did you make the “soup” ?
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Nice job! Interesting blend of styles! I'm interested in the "soup recipe", gpp!
Hawkdancer
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Simk and bjrogg I was wondering the same. Pretty sure someone knows, if not I will post when I recognize a significant color change.
What I also recognized, staining with the soup works like a dream, the early growth rings like to leave some white spots, but OO soup penetrates very well. Also when I applied the first layer with tung oil, it acted like being oiled already. Normally it just sucks up the first layer.
Good looking bow, bow did you make the “soup” ?
Nice job! Interesting blend of styles! I'm interested in the "soup recipe", gpp!
Hawkdancer
Just take scrapes, shavings, sawdust and boil it a couple of hours until you get a thick soup. Take some samples if you are not sure how thick. I also hanged in a teabag with black tea for a couple of minutesFilter the soup and apply it mixed with alcohol (IPA)
Glad you like it, thanks.
B2W
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That´s a very nice bow. I´m sure it draws smoothly!
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Nice :0 That design obviously works well with the Ash.
Did you stain it that colour to make it think it was Osage ;D
Del
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Love it!
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Simk and bjrogg I was wondering the same. Pretty sure someone knows, if not I will post when I recognize a significant color change.
What I also recognized, staining with the soup works like a dream, the early growth rings like to leave some white spots, but OO soup penetrates very well. Also when I applied the first layer with tung oil, it acted like being oiled already. Normally it just sucks up the first layer.
Good looking bow, bow did you make the “soup” ?
Nice job! Interesting blend of styles! I'm interested in the "soup recipe", gpp!
Hawkdancer
Just take scrapes, shavings, sawdust and boil it a couple of hours until you get a thick soup. Take some samples if you are not sure how thick. I also hanged in a teabag with black tea for a couple of minutesFilter the soup and apply it mixed with alcohol (IPA)
Glad you like it, thanks.
B2W
IPA like the beer? :o >:D
lol just kidding i assume "IPA" stands for "Isopropyl alcohol" ? any particular concentration? or does it not matter?
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Thank you!
That´s a very nice bow. I´m sure it draws smoothly!
Yep it draws smooth, guess the length, the stiff outer, give it still a good string angle.
Nice :0 That design obviously works well with the Ash.
Did you stain it that colour to make it think it was Osage ;D
Del
;D - i've made quiet a few ash bows by now, I think with this design I'm close to the optimum for this tree.
I like to experience with different stains on my white bows, that was the main reason.
It's like make up. From far you are pretty sure it's a super model, but getting closer you discover a chubby girl..( an OO bow with the same thickness would be a 100# bow I guess). But if the character is right I don't mind when she pretend to be a queen.
dylanholderman: my IPA comes 99,9%. I use it for many things but not for drinking 0.1% makes it undrinkable anyway. Just add it, to manipulate the amount of soup you are going to apply. It will evaporate fast and applying is easier
B2W
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I´m going to mark the arrow pass. In the FD pic I hold it a bit too high.
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Beauty- I like ash very much. Light in the hand and mine have been nice shooting bows for their draw weights.
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Look'n good. Nice work!