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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: silent sniper on October 29, 2019, 11:22:47 am
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Hey guys, I need a little help on classifications. This is my new bow design that I built for the PA bow trade as most of you guys saw. I am planning on building another one and I want to get a concrete name for this design.
Here are the unstrung, strung, and full draw profile pictures. The string rests on roughly 2-1/2" of limb below the nock at brace height.
I want your opinion on what would be best to call it. Is it a hybrid longbow, semi-recurve, recurve, static recurve or working recurve? I understand it could be multiple names but I would like to know what you think it would be best classified as.
Thanks,
Taylor
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48918495831_b29a6e691b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hwL5vV)
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48917969718_5050823238_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2hwHo81)
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Back in the day the term semi-recurve was applied to bows with ends rather similar to this. Adding "working" recurve to that was superfluous because anything not considered static would be working.
I would call it a deflex semi-recurve.
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Isn't it an RD?
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It isn’t a RD Longbow if the string contacts the limb before the tips at brace.
Alan
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Looks like we need a definition book. Alan, were you responding to my post or the thread in general?
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Okay, so what's it called if the string contacts the limb before the tips?
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Id call it a recurve,even if the recurve is minimal...More specifically a deflexed risered recurve..I dont believe,the amount of recurve matters it,as long as the string has contact to the limb,prior to the nocks..
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Okay, so what's it called if the string contacts the limb before the tips?
I am under the impression that a bow with a string that rests on the limb at full brace height is generally a recurve. A longbow has straight tips and therefore the string wouldn't touch the limb at brace height.
I have made R/D longbows before but none of them had the profile that this bow does. Here are the last few R/D bows I made so you can compare them.
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php?topic=63519.0
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,65941.msg927431.html#msg927431
I am probably being too picky about the difference in profiles, but I want to make sure I am categorizing this bow correctly.
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It's a deflex bow with mild recurves. A good design too. Nice looking bow BTW.
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Would a Wilcox duoflex have more pronounced curves. I'd call it a recurve with a deflexed handle also.
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Nice looking bow BTW.
yes,indeed
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I don’t know...to me, that’s an R/D. The reflex may be mild and be present in only the flipped tips, but...still an R/D in my book. Who is the arbiter of these terms?
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I would call it deflexed recurve.
B2W
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Deflexed recurve. Just :)
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Although the shape is more like a reflex/deflex the string making contact with the limb makes this a deflexed recurve ;D
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Yes
What Pat said.
HH~
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Thanks everyone for the opinions. I will call this one a deflexed recurve. I will make sure my future designs are more easily distinguishable (lol)
Thanks,
Taylor
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It's a DRC
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This is closer to a Duoflex http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,5717.msg79200.html#msg79200
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@silent sniper
What is the current brace height for your new bow?
It looks to me as if the bow with 1 inch more brace height has much less contact between string and limbs at the tips.
For me it is more a R/D bow or Hybrid with a non- / minimal working reflex.
The boundaries between bow types are probably fluid.
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A beautiful bow!!!! rest don’t matter. Arvin
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It’s in my dining room and I call it really cool! And fast! Woot woot!
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So if that isn't an RD, what is?
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@silent sniper
What is the current brace height for your new bow?
It looks to me as if the bow with 1 inch more brace height has much less contact between string and limbs at the tips.
For me it is more a R/D bow or Hybrid with a non- / minimal working reflex.
The boundaries between bow types are probably fluid.
This bow has a brace height of 7" from the back of the bow at the arrow shelf to the string. From the belly of the bow at the beginning of the fade to the string is 6". This is the normal brace height I run on my stiff hand bows.
It’s in my dining room and I call it really cool! And fast! Woot woot!
I am glad you are loving it Hoosier!
So if that isn't an RD, what is?
DC, Maybe a deflex semi-recurve is the best term. The bow shares characteristics of a deflex recurve and a R/D longbow. I dont think the bow can be classified as a longbow but the tip curves are not full blown sharp recurves either. Hence the idea of a Semi-Recurve. If you do a google search on the Fred bear cub or fred bear alaskan bow you can see what was originally classified as "semi-recurves" back in the 1960's.
Again the name of the design means almost nothing, but it would be nice to have a classification that everyone agrees on. I think a deflexed recurve or semi-recurve are both perfectly adequate classifications for this bow.
Thanks,
Taylor
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Fast! Pretty! Awesome! ;D
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Looks like we need a definition book. Alan, were you responding to my post or the thread in general?
I meant to give a general statement about how the bow would be classified. I think it doesn’t matter so much unless it is intended to be used for some kind of competition where the rules may draw a sharp line between Recurve and Longbow. In this case, it is a Recurve. Raise the brace height a bit and it’s may fit the definition of a reflex-deflex Longbow. :)
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To me it is a semi recurve. Very nicely done. no matter what you call it.
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I'm with Arvin. Nice bow. If I was going to call it something it would be a name. A nice name.
Bjrogg
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D-Curve.....................and there ya go....... Nice....