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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Ryano on April 16, 2008, 05:24:30 pm

Title: BLACK LOCUST LONGCURVE.
Post by: Ryano on April 16, 2008, 05:24:30 pm

Here's a Black locust recurve I just finished up. Its 66" ntn 1 3/4" wide at the fades and straight tapers to 3/8" nocks. It was a bit of a character stave, not side to side, but front to back. It had three large bumps to deal with the center one I took advantage of and made a cool reverse style handle. The other two I tried to remove the best I could with heat. The one in the lower limb is now almost unnoticeble, the one in the top limb is more pronouced. It is backed with western diamond back rattle snake skins, and has a deer leather grip and deer antler tips. It pulls around 50#@28" I havent reweighed it since finshing it but its pretty close to 50#. I'm pretty happy with the way it turned out, and I realy like the way it shoots. Hope you enjoy!


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Post by: Ryano on April 16, 2008, 05:25:36 pm

BELLY VIEW OF GRIP

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Post by: Ryano on April 16, 2008, 05:27:40 pm

FRONT VIEW

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Post by: Ryano on April 16, 2008, 05:29:08 pm

SIDE VIEW OF GRIP AND TIPS

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Post by: Dustybaer on April 16, 2008, 05:35:03 pm

what a cool bow!  love that handle.  great job ryan.

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Post by: tom sawyer on April 16, 2008, 05:36:44 pm

Very nice static tip recurve.  Love the sexy handle.

How did you like the black locust?  Compare favorably to osage for you?

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Post by: Ryano on April 16, 2008, 05:59:49 pm

Thanks Lennie and Marius.
Lennie, its good wood but its not as forgiving as osage.

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Post by: Badger on April 16, 2008, 06:04:50 pm

Great looking bow Ryan, lots of character and very distinct design. Steve

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Post by: John K on April 16, 2008, 06:06:12 pm

Awsome ! I love the handle too !!  Need to get me some BL.

John

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Post by: Ryano on April 16, 2008, 06:12:16 pm

Thanks guys.
Here's a shot of the stave as I was working it down.

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Post by: tom sawyer on April 16, 2008, 06:23:51 pm

Tailor made for that handle.  Do you think a guy could glue on a piece on the back of a normal stave and get that deep of a grip?

Did the BL take more set than osage?  Just wondering what aspect was less forgiving.  The stuff I've used in backed bows is slightly lower density than osage, but it worked about the same otherwise.

Title: Re: BLACK LOCUST LONGCURVE.
Post by: Ryano on April 16, 2008, 06:31:09 pm

Lennie, I've just had problems with it in the past. If you over stress it to much in any one little spot durring tillering it will fret on the belly. This piece held reflex great, maybe not quite as much as osage would but close. Oh, and yes I think you probally could glue a riser on the back of a bow as long as it doesnt bend passed the fades at all. I've done simalar handles by leaving extra rings of sapwood on the back of the handle area.

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Post by: Okie on April 16, 2008, 06:53:33 pm

Great looking bow. Love the handle. I've been trying to find a piece of Osage with a handle like that.

John

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Post by: Dano on April 16, 2008, 06:56:59 pm

Great job Ryan!!

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Post by: african man on April 16, 2008, 07:03:35 pm

I like it, I like it a lot!!!!

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Post by: Ryan_Gill_HuntPrimitive on April 16, 2008, 07:10:52 pm

well ladies and gents, here is your bow of the month.  lol   great job Ryan.  really a work of art.- Ryan

Title: Re: BLACK LOCUST LONGCURVE.
Post by: Ryano on April 16, 2008, 07:36:35 pm

Thanks everyone.
 Ryan, Thanks buddy but there's a lot of great bows this month, I guess we'll have to wait and see.

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Post by: Justin Snyder on April 16, 2008, 08:04:55 pm

Great looking bow Ryan. I never thought of putting the extra length of rattler skin on the belly.  Great job. Justin

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Post by: mullet on April 16, 2008, 08:35:12 pm

  Very sweet Ryan, I really like how you used that knot for the handle.

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Post by: DanaM on April 16, 2008, 08:40:42 pm

Everyone already said what I was gonna say :(  Great bow ryan :)

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Post by: OldBow on April 16, 2008, 08:47:58 pm

Quite the bow. Very distinctive handle. The ol' full draw will nail this one for April Self Bow of the Month consideration.

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Post by: snedeker on April 16, 2008, 09:06:29 pm

Nice looking Pennsy black locust.  Cool handle.  I wish tha stuff grew like hickory and ash.

Dave

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Post by: redwasp on April 16, 2008, 11:11:09 pm

very sweet bow man. How does she shoot? hand shock ?

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Post by: Marc St Louis on April 16, 2008, 11:11:53 pm

Cool looking bow Ryan

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Post by: huntertrapper on April 16, 2008, 11:12:29 pm

wish my comp. was working so i could see this beautful bow ive been hearing about ;D

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Post by: Ryano on April 16, 2008, 11:40:32 pm

Thanks for all the complements guys!  ;D
Justin, ya I always try to do that if I have enough extra skin to do it. I think it makes it look sharp.
Eddie, eversince I split that stave out 2 or 3 years ago Ive been planning on using the knot for handle like that, /i like the way it turned out.
Dave, ya I hear ya. Its easy enough to find nice straight clean elm here though which I rate as good or bettter tha BL.
Redwasp, no handshock what so ever, I know its kinda long for a recurve but the static tips are so narrow that I don't think the they really add much if any mass.

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Post by: ricktrojanowski on April 16, 2008, 11:56:19 pm

Great looking bow.  Nice job on the finishing details.

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Post by: Canerod on April 17, 2008, 12:20:32 am

Beautiful bow!! I really like how you took advantage of the wood you had, and made the most of the character in it.

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Post by: venisonburger on April 17, 2008, 12:24:56 am

 Can ya all say sweeeeet! Thats great, super job the tips are well done.
VB

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Post by: Ryano on April 17, 2008, 12:31:26 am

Thank you so much guys, I'm glad ya'll like it.  ;D

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Post by: FlintWalker on April 17, 2008, 01:14:25 am

Ryan 'ol pal, you've done it again! That baby is SWEEEEEET!
 Of course, I expect nothing less from you.
  You gonna sell it, or can I expect to shoot it in a few days?
 Oh BTW, that mystery wood I sent you was called Dark Red Meranti.
  Shannon

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Post by: Pat B on April 17, 2008, 01:28:06 am

Cool bow, Ryan..,especially the handle. I've always had bad luck with locust but I'm rough on a bow.    Pat

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Post by: Keenan on April 17, 2008, 02:33:05 am

Sweet bow Ryan, Love the character handle ;D  Nice to see ya venturing into the world of crazy character ;D  Sweet tips as well  ;)

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Post by: AndrewS on April 17, 2008, 06:10:31 am

That's a great job! Excellent work, Ryan.

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Post by: Pappy on April 17, 2008, 06:51:03 am

Beautiful,full of character and I love that.Great job as usually. :)
   Pappy

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Post by: Hillbilly on April 17, 2008, 09:43:48 am

Sweeeeet! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v325/hillbillync/6groupbow.gif)

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Post by: Ryano on April 17, 2008, 10:43:16 am

Thanks Guys.
Shannon, na I don't expect to sell it. At least not by then anyways, looking forward to see ya'll. Meranti ? ah, still don't know what that is.....lol.  ;D
Pat, I've had bad luck with it in the past some as well but I've also made a few exceptional bows from it. I think the key is to slightly over build with it and tiller very slowly because it will fret at any slight hint of a hinge.
Hillbilly,  ;D thats funny.

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Post by: huntertrapper on April 17, 2008, 06:23:41 pm

now i see er. looks great really like that. ;D

Title: Re: BLACK LOCUST LONGCURVE.
Post by: GregB on April 18, 2008, 09:36:45 am

That's a good looking bow Ryan...although from what I've seen you loss your capability to make a bad bow long before I ever knew you. :)

Title: Re: BLACK LOCUST LONGCURVE.
Post by: TRACY on April 18, 2008, 09:39:19 am

Great bow! BL is definitely a little less forgiving with mistakes made during tillering than others. Really cool to see you utilize the characteristics of the stave in the design.

Tracy

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Post by: George Nagel on April 18, 2008, 04:20:00 pm

WOW!!! That is one sweet bow!

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Post by: OldBow on April 18, 2008, 10:34:11 pm

Hmmm-still no Full Draw.

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Post by: Woodland Roamer on April 18, 2008, 11:33:15 pm

That's a great looking bow Ryan! BL is a personal favorite of mine, I love the stuff. That handle looks great and those tips are very nice.

Alan

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Post by: recurve shooter on April 19, 2008, 02:19:31 am

my turn. nice handle. 8)

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Post by: Rich Saffold on April 19, 2008, 04:10:39 am

It's just amazing what a little salt water can do :D  Gotta love that grip Mother Nature provided. Creative skin work on the belly..Black locust as well..Very fine as usual..

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Post by: Ryano on April 19, 2008, 09:52:17 am

Sorry, oldbow I swear I had put it on there?

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Post by: Ryano on April 19, 2008, 09:54:30 am

Quote from: Rich Saffold on April 19, 2008, 04:10:39 am

It's just amazing what a little salt water can do :D  Gotta love that grip Mother Nature provided. Creative skin work on the belly..Black locust as well..Very fine as usual..

Ya, saltwater thats my secret Rich.....shhhh..... :-X

Thanks for all the nice words fellas...... ;D

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Post by: OldBow on April 19, 2008, 01:52:27 pm

That conifer made a great background for your full draw. Super candidate bow for April Self BOM.  Thanks.

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Post by: koan on April 19, 2008, 04:47:10 pm

Man o man, that is sweet..the glue line angle on your tips border insanity...I LOVE IT...what kind of glue on those tips? Bringing her to the Classic I hope?....Brian

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Post by: david w. on April 19, 2008, 08:44:46 pm

i love that bow :)

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Post by: Ryano on April 20, 2008, 12:05:58 am

Thanks old bow. It did work out pretty good.
Brian, insanity? Why? The string actualy pushes the two piece of wood together at the angle I cut it at. Plus the tips are static so there's no reason to think it wouldnt hold just fine, several others on this site have been doing there tips like that before me, thats were I got the idea. I used super glue to glue them on.
Thanks David.

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Post by: GregB on April 21, 2008, 09:47:38 am

Might purty bow there Ryan!

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Post by: koan on April 21, 2008, 12:34:30 pm

Ya Ryan, I see that now ;) Musta been thinkin workin recurve ???...Or....could of been the beverage I was drinkin ;D...Brian

Title: Re: BLACK LOCUST LONGCURVE.
Post by: Dingleberry on April 21, 2008, 12:41:23 pm

Awesome bow Ryan and what everybody else said. :)  I like bl alot too but have never made a recurve.   How is your little girl doing?

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Post by: Mechslasher on April 21, 2008, 03:22:56 pm

sweet!!

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Post by: medicinewheel on April 22, 2008, 12:20:57 pm

you're a master!!!
handle's been mentioned before...??...   :o :o :o
frank

Title: Re: BLACK LOCUST LONGCURVE.
Post by: Ryano on April 22, 2008, 03:18:53 pm

Thanks Greg.  ;D
Brian, I could go for a cold one right about now!  ;D
Dingleberry, Thanks buddy. She doing great, and your boy?
Mechslasher, thanks man. Means a lot from you, a fellow wooden recurve man...... ;D
Frank, a master ? I don't know about that but thank you for the complement, your quite a fine bowyer yourself.

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Post by: Ryano on April 23, 2008, 11:00:38 am

Anyone going to hawkeyes spring thaw shoot this weekend? I'll be there with this and some of my other bows......

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Post by: cowboy on April 23, 2008, 01:51:59 pm

Another fine weapon there Ryan :)! I gotta try my hand at some character - time, time, time :'(..

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Post by: jamie on April 23, 2008, 09:16:19 pm

excellent. those tips are vicious

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Post by: Ryano on April 25, 2008, 01:30:27 am

Thanks Cowboy and Jamie. ;D

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Post by: Outbackbob48 on April 30, 2008, 10:36:39 pm

Ryan, That is one beautiful bow, really like how you used all the character  to bring it togeather, Thanks also for all the help on my curve , I shot it at the nuge shoot an everybody really liked it an could not believe th e speed, Thanks Again   Later Bob