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Title: Tiller advice wanted on photo
Post by: StickMark on July 20, 2019, 07:53:02 am
This is a hickory board, one layer of sinew over back, one lean course down middle.
Pulled back about 22".  Bow has working limbs of 22.2 inches, starting at the end of fades (flatter part); overall length is 57 inches. 

I have a short draw.  @23.5, 24 seems long for me. I can accommodate that though, and would like to reach out more draw length wise.  Bow is @ 44# or so at 22". 

Thanks in advance for looking.
 Mark
Title: Re: Tiller advice wanted on photo
Post by: ohma2 on July 20, 2019, 08:20:28 am
To my eye your bottom limb looks stiffer right out of the fade.
Title: Re: Tiller advice wanted on photo
Post by: Del the cat on July 20, 2019, 08:37:03 am
Looks pretty good to me, but outer half could come round a tad more as the sting isn't making a 90 degree angle with the tips yet... and that's about where you'd want to stop bending.
Del
Title: Re: Tiller advice wanted on photo
Post by: SLIMBOB on July 20, 2019, 08:44:31 am
Unbraced pic?  I agree with Del assuming a straight profile. More bend outboard and possibly a bit more near the bottom fade as well. Unbraced will confirm or cancel that out though.
Title: Re: Tiller advice wanted on photo
Post by: StickMark on July 20, 2019, 09:05:19 am
unbraced, just after pulling and getting the lower fade working more by sanding it down a bit.
Maybe the stiffer outer limbs causing the slight bend mid limb immediately after unstringing?

Title: Re: Tiller advice wanted on photo
Post by: StickMark on July 20, 2019, 09:10:26 am
Better, lol
Title: Re: Tiller advice wanted on photo
Post by: StickMark on July 20, 2019, 09:14:47 am
Sorry about the confusion.  Better?
Title: Re: Tiller advice wanted on photo
Post by: StickMark on July 20, 2019, 09:41:56 am
Still a little stiff on lower fade,?, and I will gently get the tips bending just a little more.  Thanks.
Title: Re: Tiller advice wanted on photo
Post by: Del the cat on July 20, 2019, 11:03:11 am
I'd say the lower fade is fine... the upper is a whisker weak IMO... anyhow you want the lower limb stiffer.
Put your hands where we can see 'em and step away from the fades...
Del
Title: Re: Tiller advice wanted on photo
Post by: Marc St Louis on July 20, 2019, 12:14:35 pm
Tiller looks better in the last pic.  Getting a balance between how the limbs bend in relation to each other helps with handshock
Title: Re: Tiller advice wanted on photo
Post by: burchett.donald on July 20, 2019, 02:08:45 pm
Stick,
         To get more out of it, the black areas need some attention, maybe just a couple light scrapes at a time then exercise...Your nock/hand looks very high in the photo and that could be causing the out of balance appearance in hand...I do like stiff tips, but top is much stiffer...
                                    Don
Title: Re: Tiller advice wanted on photo
Post by: SLIMBOB on July 20, 2019, 02:15:22 pm
Looking better. Still appears stiff outboard top limb. Not by much.
Title: Re: Tiller advice wanted on photo
Post by: StickMark on July 20, 2019, 03:35:03 pm
Will be getting on these suggestions.  I see what you guys are seeing.
Title: Re: Tiller advice wanted on photo
Post by: SLIMBOB on July 20, 2019, 06:33:08 pm
I will add one more thing. The tiller needs a bit of work to be right. Don’t make the mistake of pulling it to full draw with those issues. If some part is stiffer, then another spot is weaker. That weak spot or spots will take set robbing you of cast. Chrysalls or frets can ruin it. Check the tiller and get it right at a much shorter draw and completely avoid that.
Title: Re: Tiller advice wanted on photo
Post by: upstatenybowyer on July 20, 2019, 06:57:02 pm
You're a smart man for posting pics and asking for advice on tiller. I've learned a ton from doing it. I agree with Don's black marks. But like said, it doesn't need much. Lookin' good.  :OK
Title: Re: Tiller advice wanted on photo
Post by: Del the cat on July 21, 2019, 12:17:43 am
 Some good points... especially the arrow looking high on the string.
... lets see it braced with the arrow at that nocking point.
Del
Title: Re: Tiller advice wanted on photo
Post by: StickMark on July 21, 2019, 05:13:06 pm
Trouble with posting a reply with an image, but have finished some scrapes and exercise.
I noticed in photos girlfriend took that the tips do not align until drawn close to 21".
Note: I am on vacation, and that has really slowed my tiller down, for the better.

Bow is 57 ttt, so I think it can do a 24" draw