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Title: Bow wood choices???
Post by: Jakesnyder on April 27, 2019, 01:09:22 pm
I'm looking for a new bow wood to try. Is there any white wood that doesnt have the spongy slow feeling that hickory can have. I'm partial to bendy handle shorter bows. (Mostly because of half-eye) maybe some heartwood. I love osage it's just so expensive to feed my bow building addiction?
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: bassman on April 27, 2019, 01:34:09 pm
Might try Black Locust.Make it a little wider than Osage,and sinew backed, and belly heat treated makes a very good bow.Sounds like your hickory is not dry enough to begin with or it is gathering un wanted moisture some how.I  probably have a dozen hanging on a wall in my house year round ,and they are any thing but spongy.Were do you live,and were are you storing your bows? In dry areas of the our country it is a very sought after wood by many  good bow makers.
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: SLIMBOB on April 27, 2019, 02:14:11 pm
The list is a long one, and regional in nature, but for me, few white woods are much better than Hackberry and it's a big weed for most, so easy to find, plentiful and not a desirable landscape feature for most.  Toast the belly and it's as good as any white wood.
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: Jakesnyder on April 27, 2019, 03:57:51 pm
I'm in south west pa. I store them in my garage. The spongy I'm talking about is how the limbs arnt as snappy as say osage. But I guess that's to be expected. Osage has spoiled me I guess. Anyone know of any good stave sources?
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: Wally44 on April 27, 2019, 04:33:18 pm
How would you go about toasting the limbs
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: bassman on April 27, 2019, 04:54:41 pm
Jake, three years ago I gave the neighbor boy a hickory bow that turned out with less than an inch of set. I told him to store it under his bed.He didn,t. Two months later we shot the bows together in my back yard, and his limbs turned to noodles. He had his stored in his garage also.Ruined the bow.I live 50 miles north of Pittburgh, Pa. so we live in the same environment.Keep hickory bows inside unless you are hunting with them or shooting them.Good luck and take care.
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: SLIMBOB on April 27, 2019, 05:04:37 pm
Use a heat gun to “toast” the belly. The term being an accurate description. Heated until it darkens the wood.
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: Hrothgar on April 27, 2019, 06:06:59 pm
As previously mentioned hackberry is a great light weight wood, it is easy to recurve the limbs with also. Another white wood you might check out is elm.
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: airkah on April 27, 2019, 07:20:31 pm
I also really enjoy hackberry. Needs to be a lot wider than osage or hickory though.
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: Russ on April 27, 2019, 08:35:30 pm
white oak is unbreakable
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: burchett.donald on April 27, 2019, 08:43:21 pm
   Jake, get your hands on some Ironwood...Hophornbeam has all the snap you can handle...
                                                                                                                                         Don
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: chamookman on April 28, 2019, 12:47:40 am
Another vote for HHB  :OK. Bob
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: Jakesnyder on April 28, 2019, 05:44:53 am
Anyone know where I can get some?
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: dylanholderman on April 28, 2019, 07:49:56 am
Just adding another wood to the list, look for honeysuckle bush(Amur honeysuckle) it’s a invasive weed but it’ll make a good bow if you can find a big enough piece, and that should be easier sense you like short bendy handle bows
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: bjrogg on April 28, 2019, 09:07:36 am
Hop Hornbeam is a good bow. I like its performance. It's not as forgiving as Osage. Isn't as easily manipulated by heat as Osage. Takes more elbow grease than Osage. Does make a snappy bow though.
I have a piece of Hackberry I think I got from Dylan in supply trade a few years ago I need to give a try. Maybe next winter.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: dylanholderman on April 28, 2019, 09:41:20 am
bjrogg what i sent was the honeysuckle.
when you do try it out i think that you'll like it :D just read up on how to work with a high crowned stave
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: SLIMBOB on April 28, 2019, 10:20:18 am
I've never made an HHB bow.  It doesn't grow around here.  I did get an HHB bow in the PA Bow trade a few years back, made by Greg B.  Excellent bow, both in the woods qualities and the the construction.  So I am a fan of it if you can get it.  Hackberry here grows from the cracks in the sidewalk, along nearly every fence line and bar ditch and waste area.  I tried it years ago, before heat treating was a thing, for me anyway.  It was junk before it got to full draw due to the excessive set it took.  Toasting the belly changes the equation entirely.
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: Jakesnyder on April 28, 2019, 12:51:56 pm
Does anyone have any staves they would like to barter?
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: Wally44 on April 29, 2019, 03:45:08 am
I just made my first bow out of hackberry n have bad string follow guess I should toast it
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: SLIMBOB on April 29, 2019, 05:42:53 am
Straighten it out or even add some reflex.  Toast the bally from handle to tip while in that position.  My opinion is that some damage has been done, so better to toast it before it takes that set, but you can improve upon it non the less.  Heat gun is the way to go, but other types of heat sources will work in a pinch.
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: Wally44 on April 29, 2019, 09:32:07 am
Alright I'll try it sometime thanks
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: Wally44 on May 04, 2019, 04:47:27 am
I toasted my bow the string follow went from 4 3/4 to 2.5u guess it remains to be seen if itll pull out again thanks fr the help
Title: Re: Bow wood choices???
Post by: SLIMBOB on May 04, 2019, 06:16:24 am
I think you will see a lasting difference.   Its better to temper before the set occurs, but you should get a kick up in the draw weight.  Let us know how it works.