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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: snedeker on April 08, 2008, 12:52:56 pm

Title: laminated bow, boo/sage/ipe r/d
Post by: snedeker on April 08, 2008, 12:52:56 pm
Sort of inspired by the south indian composite bows that are boo on wood core with horn belly recurves.  This bow has boo back, fully tapered and tillere osage core, and thin ipe lam on belly.  Its 62" ntn, 58#/27".  Its 1" (2.54 cm) wide at the fades.  It has brown osage tip overlays and handle built up from 1/8" ipe strips.  The osage core is a bias grained slat of some very light density stuff with thick early growth.  The ipe strip was supurb piece, flat sawn with a continuous ring across most of its length.  2 runouts.  Finished bow weighs only 14.5 ounces (413 g).

I pretillered the osage slat, steamed in some of the curve at the ends, backed with the boo.  Tillered the bow out to about 40#, about 9/19" thick in grip area.  To get the glueing surface on the belly, I sanded it with a sanding block perfectly flat.   Here I discovered my first glitch. One tip was miss-aligned a bit throwing the string off center.  I glued the 1/18" ipe strip on with TB3, and set up a form to pull the tip over.  I wish I had taken the backed core down to around 30# and sanded the ipe strip down to 1/16, because I had to remove so much ipe and essentially re-tiller from scratch. Ipe ended up very thin.  Started last Oct. and have been fiddling with it all fall and winter.  Awesome to shoot.

Dave

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Title: Re: laminated bow, boo/sage/ipe r/d
Post by: Pat B on April 08, 2008, 12:56:31 pm
Very nice bow, Dave. I love the profile, braced, unbraced and full draw.   Pat
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Post by: OldBow on April 08, 2008, 01:02:40 pm
Wow - its a dandy, Dave. Quite the accomplishment for anybody. Great candidate for April Laminant Bow of the Month.
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Post by: Pappy on April 08, 2008, 01:08:03 pm
Great job Dave,beautiful bow. :)
    Pappy
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Post by: Badger on April 08, 2008, 01:59:43 pm
Nice Dave, great profile and tiller shape. Steve
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Post by: DanaM on April 08, 2008, 02:03:15 pm
Looks great Dave I also like the profile.
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Post by: Dustybaer on April 08, 2008, 02:20:36 pm
beautiful lines, she sure is sexy  ;D
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Post by: adb on April 08, 2008, 03:06:27 pm
Wow, very cool bow. Nice curves.
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Post by: Justin Snyder on April 08, 2008, 03:36:29 pm
I love the design of that bow. The tiller looks great. Justin
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Post by: uwe on April 08, 2008, 04:17:21 pm
Fine work!
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Post by: snedeker on April 08, 2008, 05:06:49 pm
Thanks.  I forgot to finish the story about the alignment of the upper tip.  After belly strip glue up, it was still off, pulling to the right - bottom limb is shorter, so I couldn;t reverse limb placement.  I strung it and gently persuaded it into position by hand, and it eventually worked.

Dave
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Post by: cowboy on April 08, 2008, 05:27:04 pm
That looks good Dave! I need to try a laminate of some kind :).
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Post by: Gordon on April 08, 2008, 05:53:29 pm
What a great bow Dave. I'm amazed at how much strength the ipe added.
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Post by: ricktrojanowski on April 08, 2008, 11:34:55 pm
Nice bow, really beautifull lines.
Title: Re: laminated bow, boo/sage/ipe r/d
Post by: Jesse on April 09, 2008, 12:32:24 am
very cool bow. ipe makes a great bely. I fixed a hickory bow by putting ipe on the belly. The ipe was really thin when I was done also but it didnt seem to mind.
  Jesse
Title: Re: laminated bow, boo/sage/ipe r/d
Post by: Rich Saffold on April 09, 2008, 01:37:10 pm
 Dave, Looks like your persistence paid of nicely. I like the profile, and had been thinking about that combination as well. It has to have good "numbers". I have bellied a couple bows with ipe which doubled the poundage and increased the mass by less than a third so there are some good benefits to this technique..

Rich
Title: Re: laminated bow, boo/sage/ipe r/d
Post by: snedeker on April 09, 2008, 01:55:55 pm
Boy, its a bit labor intensive though.  The belly strip glue up paticularly. I had it on the first time and didn't like how iit was looking and yanked it off half way through drying.  Had to sand it all of again, but the second time was the charm.  I wrapped it at a few strategic locations on the handle and limbs with fine hemp cord to suppress any desire to delaminate during tillering.

Dave
Title: Re: laminated bow, boo/sage/ipe r/d
Post by: medicinewheel on April 16, 2008, 06:58:46 am

hi dave!  -  that's a really nice bow and that profile looks familiar  ;D ;D ;D
i'm sure that also a bow with some serious punchs, right?!
frank