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Title: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: upstatenybowyer on February 03, 2019, 01:30:58 pm
This is the second sinew-backed bow I started back around September. It's made from billets spliced w/ a tapered finger joint. The siyahs are American Beech. I made her extra wide, 2" out of the fades until mid-limb, then tapering down to 3/8" at the tips. The siyahs look a bit bulky from the side, but they're super thin and hand shock isn't noticeable to me. In fact, she feels very smooth and easy to shoot.  (SH) There are 3 coarses of sinew. Thanks as always for checking it out.  :)

58" including the length of the siyahs
55# @27"
osage on the handle
rattler skins on the back
water buff horn tips
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: upstatenybowyer on February 03, 2019, 01:31:49 pm
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Post by: upstatenybowyer on February 03, 2019, 01:32:39 pm
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Post by: upstatenybowyer on February 03, 2019, 01:33:54 pm
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Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: upstatenybowyer on February 03, 2019, 01:34:26 pm
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Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: DC on February 03, 2019, 02:09:20 pm
Beautiful, you nailed that one :)
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: Pat B on February 03, 2019, 02:19:19 pm
 8)   :OK I bet she is a sweet shooter.
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: bradsmith2010 on February 03, 2019, 02:45:47 pm
wow thats a nice one, I like wide,,
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: rps3 on February 03, 2019, 02:46:57 pm
I want it! Bet it looks even better in person. Beautiful bow.
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: Bob Barnes on February 03, 2019, 03:06:49 pm
That is an amazing bow... ERC ( heartwood at that) being pushed to it's limits... I like it and will be interested in seeing how it holds up... please keep us informed.  I want one just like it.  :)   :OK
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: osage outlaw on February 03, 2019, 03:20:53 pm
Beautiful bow
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: peacefullymadewarbows on February 03, 2019, 04:05:14 pm
The whole bow is gorgeous. I especially love the transition between the siyahs and limbs. The shape is very graceful.
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: Badger on February 03, 2019, 04:08:05 pm
  Very nice! About the nicest ERC I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: PatM on February 03, 2019, 05:28:05 pm
That's my kind of bow.
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: bassman on February 03, 2019, 05:57:56 pm
That will show Mafort at least  one excellent  design for ERC.Beautiful bow.
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: PaSteve on February 03, 2019, 06:05:01 pm
Wow. That's really nice. Great job on a beautiful bow.
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: bjrogg on February 03, 2019, 06:16:42 pm
Oh I like that one a lot. She is a looker bet she fast to. Sure hope she doesn't break your heart. I bet she smells good to. I gotta try a ERC. I think that's the nicest one Ive seen Jeff. I'd love to see her in person.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: kbear on February 04, 2019, 01:50:40 am
A thing of beauty Upstate, thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: upstatenybowyer on February 04, 2019, 05:24:38 am
Thank you all very kindly.

I guess what I like about this one is that the design, materials and process of building all came together nicely. It's important for me to note that that never would have happened if it weren't for this website- reading threads (about design, performance, materials, tillering etc) and seeing examples (made by the best bowyers around).

Thank you DC, Pat B, Brad, rps3, Bob, Outlaw, pmwb, Steve, PatM, Bassman, PAsteve, bj and kbear.

BJ, I sure hope I get to show it to you in person one of these days.

I promise I'll let you all know how she holds up.  :)
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: S.C. hunter on February 04, 2019, 07:11:37 am
Man, I like that one!  Really beautiful bow. Definitely one to be proud of.
  Steve
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: ty_in_ND on February 04, 2019, 07:54:34 am
Lovely work!  It's neat seeing a wide ERC bow.
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: ohma2 on February 04, 2019, 08:19:42 am
Very nice .
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: DuBois on February 04, 2019, 08:27:09 am
Beautiful bow!
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: TimBo on February 04, 2019, 08:43:30 am
That's an epic bow!  The black grip, wraps, and tips really make the other colors pop. 
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: Hawkdancer on February 04, 2019, 10:27:17 am
Very nice!  Motivation for newbies!
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: Sticks on February 04, 2019, 07:30:29 pm
it looks fast just standing still.
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: backtowood B2W on February 04, 2019, 11:40:45 pm
Very nice. looks like many parts came together to become something unique and special. Congrats!!!
For me the outers of the limbs (not shyas) look a bit stiff, can you tell me why you made it like that?
Thank you.
B2W
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: Sidewinder on February 05, 2019, 06:21:56 am
You killed it. Very nice bow in every way. That heartwood is stunning.
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: M2A on February 05, 2019, 06:29:36 am
Lots of steps in that build looks like. Well done! Looks great!
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: Bayou Ben on February 05, 2019, 07:00:03 am
Very nice Jeff.  Man this bow has a lot going on, and you put it all together perfectly.   :OK
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: simk on February 05, 2019, 09:37:42 am
High Score! I'd kill for a piece of that wood!
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: Parnell on February 05, 2019, 10:25:44 am
That’s really cool, fun to see something different.  I continue to be curious when I see your bows when it comes to your squared grips.  Is that something that just feels more comfortable to you?

Nice one.
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: Will B on February 05, 2019, 03:34:54 pm
Great looking bow!!
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: upstatenybowyer on February 05, 2019, 06:03:29 pm
Thank you SC, ty, ohma, DuBois, TimBo, Hawk and sticks.   )P(

B2W, the reason the outers look the way they do is two-fold... first, there's some reflex out there so despite their appearance, they are doing a fair amount of work. Secondly, I make a conscious effort not to let the inners or outers do too much work. I've found I get the best results when the mid limbs are doing the majority. Thanks for your reply.  :)

Much appreciated Sidewinder, M2A, Ben, simk and Will!

And thanks Parnell. I've actually really been trying to give extra attention to my grip shapes lately, modeling them as sorta a hybrid between Outlaw's and Marc St. Louis'. This one got a squarish handle simply because I didn't have much handle wood on hand (no pun intended) when I build it. That said, I do kinda like the feel of a straight and even grip, especially on shorter bows. Not sure why that is.
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: Pappy on February 06, 2019, 05:39:36 am
Beautiful bow in all aspects, very nice work, I am with Steve on the grip, but to each their own, if it fits you , that's all that matters. ;)
 Pappy
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: Sagebrush on February 06, 2019, 07:48:30 am
Really nice dedicated work. This looks like the most intimidating of all the bow builds one could undertake.
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: leonwood on February 06, 2019, 01:58:21 pm
Thatis a pretty crazy bow if you ask me! Erc and sinew is a great combo. Really pretty wood and awesome job on the spliced syjahs.
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: upstatenybowyer on February 06, 2019, 05:18:26 pm
Thank you kindly Pappy, Sagebrush and Leon. Can't tell you how much I value your perspectives. :)

Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: barebo on February 07, 2019, 04:32:12 pm
Compared to the basic "working man's" type bows that I make, this is akin to the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel !!! I am in awe of your ability to transform natural materials into functional works of art.
Your production rate is prolific as well. I can't think of any compliment to offer that hasn't been already - every offering you present keeps me awestruck!
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: wizardgoat on February 09, 2019, 08:24:29 pm
Nice one, this bow was a labour of love for sure
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: Bojahu on February 09, 2019, 11:24:18 pm
Beautiful work!
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: lebhuntfish on February 10, 2019, 06:35:59 am
Beautiful bow and the design is on point! Never would have thought that Osage would pair so nicely with the cedar.
Gives me encouragement to work on the cedar stave I have. Bow of the month for sure!

Patrick
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: upstatenybowyer on February 10, 2019, 06:47:08 am
barebo, thank you very much. Hopefully in the spring we can meet up and do some shootin'.  )P(

Thanks goat. Your work has always been an inspiration. One of the things I love about bow making is crystalizing an idea of what I'd like an outcome to be, then planning each and every step it will take to get there. It's especially nice when the vision doesn't blow up in your face.  (--) ;D

Thanks Bojahu  :)

I know what you mean about osage and ERC Patrick. Never thought so either until I held them up next to each other.  (=)
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: barebo on February 10, 2019, 07:54:33 am
I'm looking forward to hitting the 3D circuit this year here in central NY - we have some excellent courses that are Traditional / Primitive friendly. Hoping we can get out together this spring!

I've made 6 or 7 bamboo backed bows and just glued up this one with my first attempt at a "power lam" of sorts. I used Ipe over a nicely grained hickory core and had to continually thin it down to  make the gap at the bamboo backing transition smooth. Once I take it out of the clamps we'll see what I ended up with?

I like a standard "D" shape hence no reflex induced. 67"ntn.

Not meaning to Hijack your beautiful bow thread - just letting you know I still have my fingers in the pie.
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: dbeane on March 01, 2019, 12:38:19 pm
Wow. Beatutiful bow, congratulations!
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: bushboy on March 08, 2019, 10:50:32 am
Wow!! Gorgeous for sure!the draw pic stellar!
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: Thunderlizard on March 08, 2019, 05:30:51 pm
Right. On. That thing looks rad.
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: DC on March 09, 2019, 08:42:35 am
OOOH! A 4 pager Jeff, way to go ;D ;D
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: upstatenybowyer on March 09, 2019, 02:18:10 pm
OOOH! A 4 pager Jeff, way to go ;D ;D

LOL!  ;D ;D ;D Guess I never had one of those before  O:)  ;D
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: SLIMBOB on March 10, 2019, 09:25:24 am
Beautiful..Very nicely done sir!
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: ccase39 on March 10, 2019, 11:59:15 am
That is one of the finest looking bows I have seen. Great job. Now I want one lol.
Title: Re: Short and wide sinew-backed ERC w/ siyahs
Post by: gumboman on March 24, 2019, 11:45:11 am
Am I safe in assuming the acronym ERC is for Eastern Red Cedar?