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Title: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: MattZA on October 02, 2018, 10:49:49 am
Hi all!

I finally completed a little bow the girlfriend was asking me to make for her. It doesn't look like a specific ancient replica, but it suited the bosses orders of "make it look interesting". This is my fourth ever attempt at a bow. Also the first time I've ever used bamboo.

I ended up with this. Massaranduba limbs stained ebony and then partially sanded (because Government told me to "make it interesting"). A thin bamboo strip for the backing to keep draw weight down. Handle and tips made of Massaranduba and Brazilian Ash, with the inlays on the belly also Brazilian Ash.

50" nock to nock.
35# at 26".
1-3/8" wide at fades, tapering to 1/4" at the tips.
2" set immediately after unbracing, dropping to 1" after an hour unstrung. Zero string follow at rest.

Please let me know your thoughts/criticisms/etc. It's far from perfect and I'm desperate to learn from you excellent bunch.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/2LRrbMiQgB1z2uM86
Title: Re: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: MattZA on October 02, 2018, 10:52:06 am
Oh, just a note to those who may not know:

Brazilian Ash is not Ash. It's also known as Garapa. It's a tropical wood which is pretty heavy (0.88sg), and works reasonably well as a bow wood. I'm happy to answer any questions you may have about it.

Matt.
Title: Re: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: MattZA on October 02, 2018, 10:59:25 am
Oh, and thanks to people like Badger, Del, Justin S and Pat for all the advice and patiently putting up with my constant idiotic questions.
Title: Re: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: bjrogg on October 02, 2018, 11:01:30 am
Congratulations Matt. It looks great. Need to see the full draw though. I'm guessing it looks pretty good though.
Bjrogg
Title: Re: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: MattZA on October 02, 2018, 11:05:03 am
Oh and bjrogg thanks for all your advice too!

I have to wait for the girlfriend to get home for a full draw picture, I think. It's slightly whip ended - but I wanted it to be as smooth as possible.

Thanks though!
Title: Re: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: simson on October 02, 2018, 12:15:15 pm
---it does look interesting---
(esp. the hooks >:D)

Let's have the look on th fd.
So far pretty nice work
Title: Re: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: MattZA on October 02, 2018, 12:26:52 pm
Thanks simson.

The tips are pretty extravagant, but they provide a bit over an inch of static recurve and prevent the string from falling off. 26" isn't much draw (tillered to 28" for safety), but when the bow is only 50" long...

I'll get that full draw photo up asap.
Title: Re: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: upstatenybowyer on October 02, 2018, 07:29:31 pm
Looks very nice. Looking forward to seeing the FD.  :)
Title: Re: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: Morgan on October 02, 2018, 08:15:00 pm
I can’t open the picture for some reason. :-\
Title: Re: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: George Tsoukalas on October 02, 2018, 09:05:24 pm
Very nice! Jawge
Title: Re: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: ntvbowyer1969 on October 02, 2018, 09:18:15 pm
Great looking bow and a real original design. Love the colors.
Title: Re: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: NorthHeart on October 02, 2018, 10:23:12 pm
Awesome 4th bow bud!
Title: Re: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: Mounter on October 02, 2018, 11:40:46 pm
Whenever my “ better half” gives me extra time  in the shop it’s win.

Looks good dude. I’m liking the colors.
Title: Re: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: Del the cat on October 03, 2018, 01:19:54 am
Nice work :)
Del
Title: Re: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: MattZA on October 03, 2018, 01:47:48 am
Thanks is for the kind words, everyone. It somehow looks a bit too modern for my tastes, but the girlfriend likes it.

The idea behind the tips was to try and steal an inch or two of reflex, while also making sure the string didn't slip off since 28" is a big ask from a 50" bow.

Has anyone else ever used Garapa (Brazilian Ash) as a bow wood before?
Title: Re: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: leonwood on October 03, 2018, 05:03:27 am
Well done! But we really need a full draw 8) Pretty good drawlength from a 50 inch bow.
Title: Re: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: MattZA on October 03, 2018, 03:58:42 pm
Right, I've finally got someone to take a snap of the full draw. Just some info:

For some reason I'm holding the bow a bit low on the handle, which makes the top limb look longer. It's actually identical in length. The small piece of white at the top is just some string I temporarily tied on because I got caught in a bit of rain and the bamboo lifted a tiny bit. Apart from that, I think it's definitely a bit whip ended, but I was aiming for a bit of that, since it can be sweeter in the hand shock department.

Here's the photo at 26" of draw. Yes, I know I have arms as long as an orangutan's  ;D
Title: Re: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: simk on October 03, 2018, 04:25:09 pm
wow, thats a clean bend. yes, maybe a bit more bend towards the handle (as stated by yourself) only a feeling, nothing to really critisize, especially for the fourth bow! congrats. i'm still struggling with my (maybe) 18th, never laminated :BB rock on matt, cheers
Title: Re: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: MattZA on October 03, 2018, 05:00:43 pm
Thanks simk!

Yea I left it a bit whippy in case I was told it's too short, and then had to start the impossible piking task of getting more bend out of an even shorter bow! That poor, poor Massaranduba.

Hey not much wrong with your bow in that photo! The right limb looks a bit stiff mid-limb. It's probably just the background, but it looks like there might be a tiny hinge forming towards the end of the bend in the left limb. It's got a lovely look to it. Powerful. Immaculate statics on the end there too.

Good luck!
Matt
Title: Re: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: simson on October 04, 2018, 11:14:48 am
first
that little bow looks gorgeous   8) 8) 8)

second
make better pics, esp the fd with an arrow hooked!
That beauty of a bow needs some better photos!
Title: Re: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: MattZA on October 04, 2018, 12:11:34 pm
Thanks simson!

I would have better photos on offer, but my dear old mother had to take the photo. I was visiting her for dinner and remembered I needed a full draw photo.

Don't worry, I'm working on an all bamboo plains horse bow next. I'm building a small scale version first to see if it's possible, but I'm aiming for 24" draw out of a 44" bow. Without sinew or horn. Just bamboo and siyahs...
Title: Re: My first bow posted on here!
Post by: upstatenybowyer on October 04, 2018, 07:13:37 pm
Looking very nice, especially for your 4th. Keep um coming man!  :OK