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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Slivershooter on March 20, 2008, 07:04:08 pm

Title: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: Slivershooter on March 20, 2008, 07:04:08 pm
Here are a few pictures of the donated bow I just shipped to Pittsburg for the convention:

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/treedlion2-27-08III001.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/treedlion2-27-08III003.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/treedlion2-27-08III016.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/treedlion2-27-08III010.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/treedlion2-27-08III037.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/treedlion2-27-08III049.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/treedlion2-27-08III031.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/treedlion2-27-08III019.jpg)

(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y91/Slivershooter/treedlion2-27-08III026.jpg)

Specifications fir the bow are: Osage selfbow, 58# @ 28” (it is drawn to 29" in the picture), 60” nock to nock, Big Horn Sheep Horn tip overlays, and Python snakeskin backing.  I built this bow last spring but only had eight coats of Tru-oil on it until this week.  I wasn’t fully satisfied (and still am not satisfied) with the tiller on this bow and built another one to donate but messed up and it came in at 48#’s.  I added another layer of sinew to that bow and have to wait a while for it to dry before redoing it, so they get this one.  The bow has a total of 14 coats of Tru-oil.  I started with three inches of heat induced reflex and ended up with about 1/2" when first unstrung.
 
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: Badger on March 20, 2008, 07:07:19 pm
Very nice! Cannot understand why you don't want it as a candidate for BOM. looks like a good candidate. Steve
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: AndrewS on March 20, 2008, 08:49:28 pm
That looks like a fine bow :)
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: mullet on March 20, 2008, 08:59:07 pm
  Very Nice bow. I'm with Steve, a very worthy candidate. Really like those skins.
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: DanaM on March 20, 2008, 09:07:27 pm
Dang Walt she's a beauty thanks for sharing. Love the tips very nice
attention to details.
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: david w. on March 20, 2008, 10:34:22 pm
sure is purty. i like the python skin
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: Marc St Louis on March 20, 2008, 10:43:05 pm
Very nice bow Walt. I'm with the others. You should have it up for BOM.

You say that you added another layer of sinew on the bow that came in light. Does that mean that this bow has sinew as well?
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: hawkbow on March 20, 2008, 11:15:22 pm
Walt, very nice bow brother... I wish i could build one that nice... you have some amazing skills... thanks for the inspiration Hawk a/ho
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: tom sawyer on March 20, 2008, 11:16:50 pm
Nice work Walt.  Tiller looks pretty good, what would you change about it?  Teh python is a nice change of pace from rattler.  Can you get two backings from one python skin?
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: Ryano on March 21, 2008, 01:02:37 am
Nice bow Walt. I like the python skin. I've had some laying around for a while, I might have to bust it out and use it.  ;D
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: Slivershooter on March 21, 2008, 01:21:29 am
Everybody, thanks for the compliments.

Mark, There isn’t any sinew on this bow.  Whenever I donate or give a bow to somebody, I back the bow with either rawhide or sinew.  The Python skin is thicker then the antelope rawhide I use to on bows, looks nicer, and functions/protects the same as rawhide.

Mike, that was good article on your bear hunt in PA.  I want to see some pictures of the shavings from that bow you are making.

Lennie, The bottom limb isn’t quite right and the top one needs to bend a little more towards the tip.  I am really pleased with the python: I managed to back two bows with one set of skins, it was wide enough to split down the middle and use on two bows less then 1 ¾”.  The only problem is they aren’t available anymore.  The snakes were being harvested as delicacy in Japan and the Far East and the skins were a side product.  The connoisseur’s of the meat felt it was too tough and the market dried up: No more python skins.  The skins available on the auction site are a different variety then the ones I used and look different when put on a bow.

Ryano, I will buy it if you decide not to use it.  If anybody finds another source for these skins (I believe they are Burmese Pythons, though I am not certain) let me know. 
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: George Tsoukalas on March 21, 2008, 01:46:07 am
Very nice bow! Jawge
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: Badger on March 21, 2008, 05:06:02 am
Burmese pythons are ow being caught in the everglades, very well established in fla now. Steve
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: medicinewheel on March 21, 2008, 05:34:42 am

walt!  -  that's one fantastic looking bow! like every detail about it.
the skin looks really good; have a tanned boa skin so i can tell a rawhide of such kind would give the bow protection! the size it is it would make backing for 4 bows! - planing on making a quiver from it that i will offer for trade.
frank

ps: to bad the bow doesn't go into BOM - i guess we all feel the same: eventhough it reduces one's chances to win BOM we would want to see your bow in!!
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: Pappy on March 21, 2008, 06:58:05 am
Beautiful bow ,very nice job.Love the detail work. :)
    Pappy
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: John K on March 21, 2008, 03:18:07 pm
Looks great Walt ! The skins really add a nice touch to it, and i really like the tips.  8)
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: PK on March 22, 2008, 01:42:54 am
what is PBS?
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: Slivershooter on March 22, 2008, 02:29:57 pm
 PK, PBS is the Professional Bowhunters Society; here is a link to the web page, http://www.bowsite2.com/pbs/

Walt Francis
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: Pat B on March 22, 2008, 03:00:59 pm
Beautiful bow, Walt and the tiller looks good to me. I believe we all over judge our own work more than others do.  The python is a nice change of pace.     Pat
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: PK on March 23, 2008, 05:45:19 am
Thanks walt, your Bow is Super :)
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: cowboy on March 23, 2008, 02:06:36 pm
I'll agree with everyone else Walt - That's a beauty all over!! :)..
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: OldBow on March 23, 2008, 02:12:10 pm
So, you didn't comment on the suggestions why this bow isn't entered for Bow of the Month?
BTW, the Montana State Bowhunters annual dinner was in town last weekend.  You would have like to have been there.
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: Slivershooter on March 23, 2008, 09:58:52 pm
Don,
I don’t build my bows for competitions, they are built first and foremost to hunt with, and work well for that purpose.  Not that there is anything wrong with the BOM competition, it brings out some truly inspirational bows every month that I love to see and study.  Many of the ideas and techniques displayed each month have been incorporated by me to make me a better bowyer.  A lot of the bowyers here are able to think outside the box, which I have trouble doing, and it really helps with my creativity.  But, I like to keep this bow building passion of mine a relaxing pastime and am, by nature, too competitive to allow it remain a relaxing pastime if I start entering my bows in competitions.  Though this particular bow is required to be entered in a competition by the PBS, it was donated to raise monies for that organization, not to win a competition. 
I made the MBA Convention on Saturday and had a great time, kept running into old friends and never did make it around to all the vendors.  Luckily I made it to Jim Remph’s table that was full of his selfbows; let me tell you there were some works of art on that table.  That guy builds some of the finest shooting selfbows I have handled and his finish work has evolved over the past few years to rival any that I have seen; including those I saw both times I went to MoJam.  Wish I had brought a camera, taken some pictures, and shared them with everybody here.  He had a 50# @ 26” sinew backed osage bow made from ¾” branch that was awesome.   

 
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: Postman on March 26, 2008, 03:58:11 pm
Awesome bow! are those Ball (AKA royal) python skins -  The common 4-5 foot pet type? i used to have a couple of them in college.
It would be great to round up a lot of them feral burmese pythons in florida for bow skins badger - ease the pressure on the snakes that belong there. (Never seen a cottonmouth - backed bow, come to think of it....) now eyeing up the red-and-white half-albino corn snake in my classroom...he's lucky he ain't more camoflauged :)
Title: Re: PBS Bow (Not for BOM)
Post by: Rusty on March 27, 2008, 04:59:42 am
Nice bow, i like the snake skin...