Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Badger on September 07, 2017, 08:18:58 pm
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This kind of occurred to me out of the blue while tillering a bow the other day. When I first started out and several year prior to that I would remove wood to lower weight on a bow as I approached target weight while trying to keep it in tiller the best I could as I approached target weight. Now I don't remove wood to lower the weight I simply remove wood to perfect the tiller and the result is lowering the weight as I perfect the tiller. A subtle distinction but none the less important. I simply keep perfecting it until I hit target weight and then I have to stop.
I would like to coin a word or phrase for this method to add to our ever growing glossary of bow making terms. Any suggestions?
Also, if you have any other terms or phrases you feel would be useful please add it here if it already hasn't been added.
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How about badgering the wood?
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How about badgering the wood?
Maybe "Badgering the bend" I kind of like the term but would feel egotistical putting my own name on it.
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I vote badgering the bend too,, :)
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Thats a nice way to approach the goal, thanks for sharing.
but would feel egotistical putting my own name on it.
you didn't, PatM did. You asked and..... a deals a deal ;D
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How about " Krewsons Gizmo" I think it earned his name.
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+1 more for "badgering the bend"! Fully describing and defining the action equals inventing the tool!
Hawkdancer
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+1 on badgering the bend. ;)
Pappy
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Tiller to perfection :)
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Sounds good to me also Steve
I sort of do the same thing as you. I just don't bother nailing target weight since that can change with use and with the weather
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I have always been reluctant to attach my name to the gizmo, I like "tillering gizmo" the best. The way I look at it, if you make a gizmo, it is your creation not mine.
"Perry Reflex" stuck years ago and was misused to the point of absurdity.
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Eric I agree that terms can be misused. Tim Baker is the one who coined the name Perry Reflex after Dan Perry explained his theory behind the principle. With a tillering Gizmo it would be pretty hard to misuse the name I think. I also think the gizmo will have more significance as time wares on. I didn't like the gizmo at first because all the bows I used it on had hand shock. But there were things I liked very much about it, it helped get tillers balanced out much quicker before any damage took place and it eliminated studying the tiller shape until I went cross eyed. It works very well with the methods I use for tillering once I learned how to use it to get the shape of bow I like.
Some people have that artists eye and have no need for a bend gauge while many of us struggle with that perfect eye. I think it is a very valuable tool and should be recognized as such.
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Well, there is more to the gizmo story; I came up with the initial idea but I used two set screws through the sides of the gizmo to hold the pencil in place, it was loosen a screw, push the pencil up a little and tighten the screw to hold it in place.
Here it is, the very first tillering gizmo;
(https://i.imgur.com/1TffVtH.jpg)
I gave one of my early gizmos to a friend named Daniel Willoughby at a shoot in Mississippi. I saw Daniel at the next shoot and he showed me how he had altered the gizmo to make it work better. He came up with the idea of tapping a 5/16" nut in the hole to hold the pencil, brilliant!
My first gizmos were square, I later slanted the ends. Another guy, unfortunately I can't remember who, came up with the pyramid shape I now use.
So my idea, with some great design changes from the users to make the gizmo what it is today.
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I tiller similarly Steve. It's very rare that the tiller, balance, and shape is so perfect that I can't find even the tiniest thing I'd like to do before I hit target weight. I just call it tillering.
Strange... back when I focused more on reducing weight as I was tillering, that's when I missed draw weight more often. But that's back when I was less experienced too so...
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Badger, I agree. I try to get the tiller right immediately even with the long string. But continue to adjust when on the short string.
But as I get older and can't pull heavy bows, it becomes a matter of maintaining and adjusting as I reduce the weight.
Jawge
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Reducing on the profile.