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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: High-Desert on August 29, 2017, 09:38:59 pm

Title: 5 Piece yew bow
Post by: High-Desert on August 29, 2017, 09:38:59 pm
I've been shooting this yew bow quite a bit, just trying to get the final tiller dialed in. it was 53" NtN, 55 lbs @ 26". it had a nice kink at a knot in the upper limb, or in these photos, the lower limb,with what looked like a section of rot on the belly side which looked really neat.
I use my phone to take full draw pics, it takes 10 rapid photos. I thought I would shoot it upside down to see how it looked when flipped. Just a recommendation, not a good idea once you have reached full draw on such a short bow. I reached full draw as the camera starting taking pictures, and this one piece of yew, turned to 5. All I could do was smile and laugh. The limbs gave out in everywhere. I can't tell where the break initiated, but it broke at the knot and at the thickest part of the fades.
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Post by: High-Desert on August 29, 2017, 09:39:46 pm
more pics
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Post by: osage outlaw on August 29, 2017, 10:15:37 pm
That's a bummer.
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Post by: sleek on August 29, 2017, 10:18:15 pm
Bottom limb failed first. Probably at the knot. There is a ghost image at the tip of the lower limb as tge broken limb came around.
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Post by: High-Desert on August 29, 2017, 10:22:23 pm
Thanks sleek! I didn't notice that! That was surely it.
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Post by: Weylin on August 29, 2017, 10:46:07 pm
Bummer! I just had a yew bow blow up in my face last week. I feel ya
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Post by: Badger on August 29, 2017, 11:17:59 pm
  How come you closed your eyes??? LOL
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Post by: NorthHeart on August 29, 2017, 11:43:29 pm
Damn! Hate to see that.  Only bow that has ever broke under my own draw was a Yew bow.  Hoping it was a fluke.  Osage always let me know earlier if it was gonna fail.  The only Osage that exploded under draw was on the tiller tree...and it made a distintive cracking sound before hand...it was laminar cracks just like Ryan Gill warned about.  And a 2 Piece t/d at that... :-[

Really hoping my next 2 yew bows turn out...
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Post by: Pappy on August 30, 2017, 04:39:59 am
To bad it was looking good, that was asking a lot from a 53 inch piece of wood.
 Pappy
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Post by: bjrogg on August 30, 2017, 06:18:00 am
Darn sorry for your loss
Bjrogg
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Post by: upstatenybowyer on August 30, 2017, 06:30:19 am
At least you got pictures of it happening in real time, that never happens!

I am sorry for your loss though.
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Post by: leonwood on August 30, 2017, 06:33:32 am
Sorry to see that! I hate it when that happens when you think you are all done! The bend did look real nice1
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Post by: Del the cat on August 30, 2017, 06:34:37 am
That's looking really.... oh damn  :o
Del
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Post by: George Tsoukalas on August 30, 2017, 06:36:54 am
All of the above.
That knot is bending way too much.
Knots should be tillered to appear slightly stiffer than the rest of the limb.

That bow was too short for the draw length and the condition of the stave with knots, etc.

If the bowyer gets one or 2 full draw explosions he/she learns to fit the design to the stave and not vice versa.

I've had 5 (that I can recall) full draw, full fledged, while I was shooting, explosions... 2 or 3 of which drew blood so I learned that lesson quickly.
Jawge
Title: Re: 5 Piece yew bow
Post by: High-Desert on August 30, 2017, 07:58:56 am
240m3srt, yes, from my experience, yew has never given me any warning at all. it just goes when it decides it's done.

Pappy and George, oh ya, I was asking a lot of this thing, but its fun to try. Besides my pushing the limits, flipping it, and trying to shoot upside down wasn't the smartest either.
The knot wasn't bending too much, its a kink in the stave, and that area was left thicker. I would have posted a unbraced profile.......but.
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Post by: DuBois on August 30, 2017, 08:17:14 am
Have you considered a little super glue and then a sinew backing??
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Post by: rps3 on August 30, 2017, 08:58:01 am
Bummer. If it's any consolation I just had a yew blow up on me also.
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Post by: Pappy on August 30, 2017, 09:15:57 am
  But  !!!!!!! ;) :) :)
  Pappy
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Post by: High-Desert on August 30, 2017, 10:06:29 am
........But......maybe George is right and it was bending too much and........it broke. Even if it wasn't bending to much based on the kink in the stave, that's where it broke......because it was bending too much.

Yep, for sure DuBois, a little super glue will fix this right up, and I'll have a nice short shooter in no time.
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Post by: bjrogg on August 30, 2017, 11:17:13 am
I've got a piece of HHB with a funny colored knot. I was get it close when the belly side of the knot lossened causing a noticeable hinge in that spot. I soaked it with super glue but really not sure I trust it and haven't finished it up yet.
Bjrogg
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Post by: High-Desert on August 30, 2017, 11:23:53 am
Hopefully that HHB knot holds up for you  Bjrogg. Are you at full draw yet?
This knot had a small longitudinal crack on that back that I had filled with superglue. It was there since I started. I think that may have been the breaking point.
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Post by: simson on August 30, 2017, 12:03:58 pm
5 piece  -  huuh.
Sorry for that nice stick.
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Post by: bradsmith2010 on August 30, 2017, 02:12:23 pm
I am conservative, I usually dont bend one that far unless it is backed,, (--)
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on August 30, 2017, 02:17:07 pm
Eric I think it broke because you narrowed the grip down as if it had fades and a stiff grip, even though its working. To me it looks like it blew right at the bottom fade. Making faux fades work out on a bendy handle is a trick and a half.
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Post by: BowEd on August 30, 2017, 02:48:15 pm
Sorry for your loss but Pearls' ananolgy makes sense to me since a high percentage of the strain on a bow is above and near the handle especially one bending that far.
Title: Re: 5 Piece yew bow
Post by: High-Desert on August 30, 2017, 03:13:19 pm
I think you may be right, but the photo seems like the upper limb (lower limb in the Photo) has just broke while the other limb is already broke and out of the picture. It's certainly a good challenge to try and make a bendy handle narrow handled bow. I do think the handle was way to narrow in general tho. It was still quite thick at the handle and fades tho, it was semi rigid. Thanks for all the input guys, the least I can do is learn from this.
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Post by: ---GUTSHOT---> on August 30, 2017, 10:55:34 pm
Dang I couldn't wait to see this 5 piece yew! Wasn't what I had in my visions