Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: upstatenybowyer on March 25, 2017, 09:49:27 am
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As one of our esteemed members likes to say, "if you ain't breakin' you ain't makin." Well, I must be makin' then! This HHB bow would have been cool, but I knew I was running a risk when a small knick on the back splintered during tillering. I attempted to save it by gluing it back down and putting cherry bark over it. The toasted belly probably didn't help either as it undoubtedly put more stress on the back. Oh well, live and learn. :)
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I know that drill , next case Sucks , that's why I have 5 ruffed out bows on my wall ready to go , If you ever run into that again I have combed flax that I will send you that would solve that problem with TB3 a small tapper patch
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That was lookin' good. I guess cherry bark isn't quite that strong :)
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Bummer, especially since you went to the trouble to back prior to the blow out. These things happen. :)
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That would have been a cool one upstate. A bit on the challenging side. Just curious it didn't break by a splice in cherry bark did it?
Bjrogg
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Thanks for the consolation boys.
SB, I may take you up on that flax thing one day.
DC, yup. Cherry bark is good, but it's no cure-all.
BB, didn't take too long to add the backing, so its all good.
bj, good question. I just looked and no, it didn't. This particular bark was on the thinner side. The stuff I sent you is a bit thicker. It did look sweet on HHB. I thought you should be the first one to post an HHB w/ cherry bark anyway! ;)
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Those curves are awesome, nice and sharp. Did you have any splinters lifting when steaming them in? Looking forward to seeing more of your work, hhb is such an awesome bow wood.
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sorry for that bummer!
I see, it was a special one, so bad it cracked.
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man that's a bummer, it looked like it had character. It would of been nice to see it bend.
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I know that drill , next case Sucks , that's why I have 5 ruffed out bows on my wall ready to go , If you ever run into that again I have combed flax that I will send you that would solve that problem with TB3 a small tapper patch
Where do you get your combed flax
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It came from Belgium I will look where I got it it was on back order for 5 months, before I got it from a spinning store just don't remember the name off hand
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Too bad. I feel for you. That has happened more often than not for me and hhb. Looks to be not very wide and kinda thick?
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rps3, I haven't had a whole lot of success with HHB either. It's been hard to find a really nice piece of it. Yeah, it was from a sapling so I couldn't get much width and I wanted something in the upper 40s so I kept some thickness. I'm sure all of this contributed to its demise. :-K
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Here's a question. It looks like the belly is intact still and i've heard that some glue bonds are stronger than the wood. Its a guarenteed perfect fit so what if you glued it back to gether and backed it with something strong like flax. I know that sounds crazy but has anyone tried?
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Man that is a bummer. That had some real curves.
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I don't know about a flax fix on that I wouldn't try maybe if there was enough wood scrape below & sinew if it was going to be a save , but any rate got the last batch of flax I got on esty
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Judging by the dark spots on the sides of the bow, Id say plenty of heat is getting around to the back. You really need to prevent that. HHB is very sensitive to that, I found out firsthand. Seems if the back gets a bit over-dry just once, its tension strength is gone quite often regardless of how long you let it acclimate afterwards. If you are using a backed caul, don't, they reflect and capture a lot of heat.
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Judging by the dark spots on the sides of the bow, Id say plenty of heat is getting around to the back. You really need to prevent that. HHB is very sensitive to that, I found out firsthand. Seems if the back gets a bit over-dry just once, its tension strength is gone quite often regardless of how long you let it acclimate afterwards. If you are using a backed caul, don't, they reflect and capture a lot of heat.
I agree with Pearl. It's worst with narrow stave and wider caul. I'm thinking about making a even narrower caul for those narrow Wonky staves. The round back makes it worst to. The HHB seems to me to like the heated belly, but like Pearl said not the back.
Bjrogg
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PS this is for Pearl. Hope you don't mind Upstate. What do you mean by backed caul? I try to keep charred spots off my caul they really aggrevate the problem. Was even toying with idea of rounding edges of caul to help heat get away. Curious what you use Pearl probably should just start a different thread I suppose.
Bjrogg
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Judging by the dark spots on the sides of the bow, Id say plenty of heat is getting around to the back. You really need to prevent that. HHB is very sensitive to that, I found out firsthand. Seems if the back gets a bit over-dry just once, its tension strength is gone quite often regardless of how long you let it acclimate afterwards. If you are using a backed caul, don't, they reflect and capture a lot of heat.
This makes a lot of sense. It could explain other failures I've had in the past. And no worries bj, that's a great question.