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Title: black powder pistol question
Post by: osage outlaw on January 28, 2017, 11:22:56 pm
Lets say a guy wanted to shoot a deer with a black powder pistol.  Which gun would be a good choice?  A flintlock would be cool but I don't know anything about them.  If I were to buy a new black powder pistol would it be OK to post it in this section?
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: PaulN/KS on January 29, 2017, 12:03:08 am
I would say that a 50 or 54 caliber Lyman Great Plains pistol could handle the job. You'll need to be close though I'd think.
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: Eric Krewson on January 29, 2017, 09:23:59 am
Google hunting deer with a Lyman percussion pistol, lots of info, loading and velocity with different loads.

This pistol would be my choice as well, I am a .54 fan. Be sure to check your state's deer hunting regs, many states don't allow B/P pistols for deer hunting. 
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: amateurhour on January 29, 2017, 10:44:41 am
I've got the .50 Traditions Kentucky pistol and it could definitely take a deer.
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: Hawkdancer on January 29, 2017, 02:21:33 pm
Like Eric said, many states don't allow them for deer.  If legal, I would not use anything less than a .44 Old Army (.457 RB, 456 RN) with a full load of 3f.  And then a lot of practice- after which he might rethink the idea😀!  .50, .54, .58 with a heavy load would do it, but might as well use a bow, it would be a very short range choice.
Hawkdancer
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: osage outlaw on January 29, 2017, 03:43:04 pm
Thanks for the info guys.  Close shots shouldn't be a problem.  I've killed 3 deer with a 44 magnum revolver.  I just thought it would be an added challenge to do it with black powder.  I'm trying to find out if its legal or not. 
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: osage outlaw on January 29, 2017, 03:47:46 pm
I guess they are legal in my state but it has to have a 12" barrel.


Muzzleloading handguns are allowed. The muzzleloading handgun must be single shot, .50 caliber or larger, loaded with bullets at least .44 caliber and have a barrel at least 12 inches long, measured from the base of the breech plug excluding tangs and other projections to the end of the barrel, including the muzzle crown.
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: Eric Krewson on January 29, 2017, 04:09:57 pm
The Lyman pistol has a 9 3/4" barrel, time to make one that meets the regs.
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: mullet on January 29, 2017, 04:46:07 pm
My first kit, an old CVA 45, has a 12" barrel and believe it or not is a tack driver at 40 yards.
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: bowtarist on January 29, 2017, 07:18:50 pm
I have a .50 cal Lyman's plains pistol. Ultra accurate and I would not hesitate to hunt deer with it.
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: mullet on January 29, 2017, 08:40:10 pm
This post made me pull out that first kit pistol I did in the late 70's and sand it back to raw wood and redo the whole thing. This time around, I stained it with walnut hull stain after I sanded it back to bare wood,dipped it in nitric acid and then burnt it with the heat gun. Sanded it and heated, hand rubbed and burnished the finish in with a deer tallow, orange oil,wax finish.
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: osage outlaw on January 29, 2017, 09:09:28 pm
You can't make a post like that and not have pictures Eddie  ::)
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: mullet on January 29, 2017, 09:49:00 pm
I'll try tomorrow. I'm working 80+ hour weeks.
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: osage outlaw on January 29, 2017, 10:15:53 pm
I hear ya Eddie. I'm working 6 12 hour days in a row this week.   
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: amateurhour on January 30, 2017, 10:53:59 am
I know that feeling. I have three blackpowder arms now and I'm going to re-sand, re-stain, clean, and re-brown (instead of blue) all of them now.
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: Parnell on January 30, 2017, 12:24:41 pm
Clint, Angie surprised me with a .54 cap lock Lyman kit for Christmas.  I'll be working on that once I clear off some other projects.
They are fun.
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: Eric Krewson on January 30, 2017, 04:53:47 pm
There are 12" barrel B/P pistols out there but not traditional ones.
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: Stoker on January 31, 2017, 10:18:33 am
Couple years back. I was watching PBS Michigan outdoors.. There was this fella and he took a deer with a BP percussion pistol.. Only about 10 yards if I remember correctly.. Looked like a lot of fun.. To bad it's illegal in Canada
Thanks Leroy
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: mullet on January 31, 2017, 06:40:09 pm
Leroy, I've taken several hogs with my pistols at close range and all have been a lot of fun.
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: mullet on February 02, 2017, 02:28:25 pm
Here you go, Clint. Nothing fancy but I like the non-shiny finish better. Oh, yea, for grins I dropped the ramrod in and guess what? I still have a load in it.
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: osage outlaw on February 02, 2017, 02:47:08 pm
That looks exactly like what I had in mind.  I just need a longer barrel to be legal.  Thanks for posting the pictures.
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: amateurhour on February 02, 2017, 03:50:39 pm
One thing that might work is getting a rice or coletrain barrel and a lock and just cutting down the barrel length and making your own stock. Prolly going to get pricey going that route though.
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: mullet on February 02, 2017, 03:50:56 pm
I've taken this barrel off and dropped it in another CVA rifle stock. Looked kinda cool.
Title: Re: black powder pistol question
Post by: amateurhour on February 02, 2017, 03:53:32 pm
Ha! Mullet I did the same thing when I had my hawken stock and kentucky pistol kit.

I thought about sawing down the stock to have a little hawken street sweeper but I never did it! :D