Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: upstatenybowyer on January 27, 2017, 07:25:21 pm
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Anybody have a tried and true way of doing this? I'm assuming you wrap the cord/string around a bunch of times and tie a knot? What knot should I use?
Thanks
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I never had much luck with tied on knocks staying put but I know some guys use stringer type strings whith leather boots over the tips I'm going to make one when I get a chance.
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I never had much luck with tied on knocks staying put but I know some guys use stringer type strings whith leather boots over the tips I'm going to make one when I get a chance.
I've made the leather boots, but the leather always ends up ripping. Probably too thin.
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Look up a bowyer's knot
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I know that one, but can it be used to tie together the two ends of the string that's wrapped around the tips?
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I put on the finish nock(if I'm overlaying it) Just rough them in and use them, it only takes a minute. If the bow breaks, well I've had some practice making nocks :). I usually cut the nocks off and re-use them if the bow breaks.
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Perhaps I didn't explain myself well. I'm making a static recurve and I like to tiller the bow out a bit before flipping the tips, so I'd like to be able to secure a long string on the bow while it's on the tillering tree without cutting nocks into the tips. Don't want to flip the tips with nocks cut in. I figured the way to do this is to use string wrapped around the tips.
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Like this. It's just that I cant get a good knot to tie the 2 loose ends together to prevent it from unwrapping.
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What about whipping of some sort. There's a variation of the clove hitch, that you can wrap/tie several times. If you get it nice and tight just put a dab of glue on it if your worried about the actual knot slipping. Cheers- Brendan
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What about whipping of some sort. There's a variation of the clove hitch, that you can wrap/tie several times. If you get it nice and tight just put a dab of glue on it if your worried about the actual knot slipping. Cheers- Brendan
I'll look that up. Thanks!
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One of the Bowyer's Bibles has a description of tying the string without nocks. You'd be better off just cutting in temporary nocks. You should be leaving your tips wide anyway before bending.
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One of the Bowyer's Bibles has a description of tying the string without nocks. You'd be better off just cutting in temporary nocks. You should be leaving your tips wide anyway before bending.
What he said
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Leave your limb tips wide and cut in side nocks. Once the bow is tillered you can reshape the tips to their final shape and add new nocks.
With the tips left wide you can also align the string at first brace by moving the tips over to one side or the other.
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Good advice about leaving them wide in the future, but if it is already narrow, I have used the penderbender method with hot melt glue and a little extra heat from the stovetop as I wind it on to build it up some
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It is simple. Cut your self a little wedge of any wood. From an 1/8 thick down to nothing. Slightly narrower than the tip. Glue this on with a spot of superglue. Do not prepare the back of the stave at all, leaver it natural because you don't want a great bond here. Then simply whip it on with serving thread or similar.
Look up the knot for tying off servings.
then when you want to change the nocks and do the final ones you simply cut the thread off and pop off the temp nock.
If you want to cut stringer grooves into them then make them a wee bit longer.
I do this on all my bows and it works everytime.
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Maybe a constrictor knot could work well if both tag ends are used for the string..
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I just a thought but liked what Mike said but use double backed carpet tape it's verry strong stuff I use it all the time for router forms and just remove serving string and peal off !
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Look up African bows. They tie their strings on with various knots, you'll find what you're after there.
One of the simplest ways is to bind the nock area with bowstring and soak it in glue. Then just use a normal laid in loop that you'd usually use and slip it over the bow tip so it sits up against the binding. That works on bows well over 100lb so you won't have any issues.
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In fact, just Google "hadza bow nocks" and look through the images.
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Wow, great ideas.
Bubby, Pat, and Pat, I usually leave the tips 1" wide before flipping the tips with steam for all the reasons you mentioned. I don't go wider because the metal I use to prevent splintering during the bend is 1" wide. I was afraid to cut in temporary nocks before bending. Maybe I shouldn't be? I know
I don't want to narrow the tips before bending, as anything less than 1" wide feels unstable during the bend.
Thanks again to everyone for the responses :)