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Title: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: gutpile on October 18, 2016, 10:48:17 am
I sinewed this bow 4 months ago..has 3 inch reflex.. flipped tips prior... tilled to 22 ..looks like right limb outter 3rd is still lil stiff..but more I study it Im seeing might be ok...any help is appreciated....
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: bubby on October 18, 2016, 11:14:22 am
Hard to tell without an unbraced pic
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: bjrogg on October 18, 2016, 11:21:00 am
Might want to see what someone else says, but looks pretty good to me. I'd like to see unbraced profile. Seems just very slightly stiff out of right fade and maybe right mid. Limb to that reflex but maybe you don't want to lose the reflex not sure. How many inches you going for? And how's your weight? I think I'd proceed with left limb just like it is maybe a little extra off the spots on right limb
Bjrogg
My advice carry on don't see anything scary
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: gutpile on October 18, 2016, 11:25:36 am
here is unbraced
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: gutpile on October 18, 2016, 11:29:01 am
I had to jack handle a lil in pic..cause it isnt flat so bow isnt perfectly level in pic ..sorry...... bow holds reflex well.. tilling to 26..poundage is around 46 at 22 so Im gonna hit my weight at 26 ...shooting for 50 or a tad more...just wanting to clean up till not reduce any weight..bow has great early tension...
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: FilipT on October 18, 2016, 11:30:34 am
What length is it?
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on October 18, 2016, 11:52:55 am
Left limb near handle needs to bend more.
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: gutpile on October 18, 2016, 11:54:54 am
length is 61 tip to tip
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: gutpile on October 18, 2016, 12:24:35 pm
Pearl I see that now...thanks... you know you keep looking at something it can drive you crazy..extra eyes always help... thanks bjroog ...
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: Pat B on October 18, 2016, 12:48:27 pm
Gut, I'd say the right outer and left inner both need a little more bending. After that, lets look again.
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: mullet on October 18, 2016, 01:07:45 pm
And about 6-7" back from the tip of the right limb.
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: bubby on October 18, 2016, 09:48:07 pm
I think pearl and mullet hit it pretty much what i would say. I must say that is quite the work bench😈
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: Badger on October 18, 2016, 10:26:34 pm
   I agree with Pearly and Mullet but I also see little stiff spots all over the inner limbs. I would put the tillering gizmo on this one and get it straightened out. Sometimes the eye just doesn't see it right.
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: gutpile on October 19, 2016, 09:48:31 am
went over it pretty good hit the spots mullet and pearly suggested... Looks pretty good to me.. always accepting suggestions...
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: High-Desert on October 19, 2016, 10:09:25 am
That's look great, way better. That spot on the left inner limb is still just a hair stiffer.....that's just what I'm seeing. I may have stared too long...... the eyes start to see things....

Eric
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: Pat B on October 19, 2016, 10:49:46 am
Mid limb on the left is almost hinging and both outer limbs are still a bit stiff. By correcting the outer on the left may help ease the hingy point at mid limb.
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: gutpile on October 19, 2016, 01:00:08 pm
I see both what ya'll see will sand a bit more on these spots..have sand tilled this bow...wood is so soft... gut
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: JW_Halverson on October 19, 2016, 01:25:02 pm
No kidding!  120 grit is like taking a draw knife to it!!!  Better step down to something a little finer grit for additional tillering!

Looking pretty good, likely be a good shooting bow that lasts for you!
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: mikekeswick on October 19, 2016, 02:48:42 pm
There is a hinge starting on the left mid limb. The inner left limb is still stiff, sorting this out will help the hinge. The right inner limb is also stiff for about 6 inches out from the fade. The tip is also too stiff.
I would go back to the long string and sort out these problems, maybe forget about the 50# for now until the tiller is correct. Then low brace and make certain you have sorted out the main weak spot mid left limb.
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: BowEd on October 19, 2016, 03:08:21 pm
I agree with the take.It is some very touchy wood to tiller.Just showing a brace profile might help too.The bow looks plenty white/mostly sap wood is it?
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: gutpile on October 19, 2016, 03:15:37 pm
only heart wood is in handle....
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: BowEd on October 19, 2016, 03:21:08 pm
That's interesting gut.Did you chase a ring then?Thanks for showing your bow.I've got a limb that might work out like your bow unless I decrown it.
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: gutpile on October 19, 2016, 03:29:37 pm
no I just removed bark and sinewed it
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: BowEd on October 19, 2016, 03:39:12 pm
Well kinda anxious to see your adjustments and final tiller draw bud.I'm sure it's light as a feather in the hand.Sweet bow I'm sure.
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: gutpile on October 19, 2016, 03:43:48 pm
in a tree next two days..might touch it Friday... it doesnt take much sanding at all to change the tiller now... gotta be careful here on out for sure...I like leaving my tips a tad stiff gives it a lil more zip IMO... Ill give them a lil sanding but will work inner a bit more..still not much though..  thanks for all the eyes guys... I appreciate it ...gut
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: gutpile on October 21, 2016, 10:41:16 am
for some reason I cant load pic says size too big ...I sanded both limbs left inner and outter a bit more...drew to 24 bow still has slight appearance of hinge in same spot...but if I zoom pic in, it completely disappears and looks perfect...wondering if its an optical illusion on tree...may flip it around tonight and try again and see if that is what it is... anyway the pic is on my facebook page..not sure why I cant load it here like the others... I have no way to resize it...gut
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: gutpile on October 21, 2016, 01:55:22 pm
Ok lets see if this works..had somebody resize for since I'm an idiot..haha
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: H Rhodes on May 12, 2017, 07:07:56 am
I was wondering how this bow turned out...  I have an ERC under construction now and am considering it for my first attempt at sinew backing.  I was looking back through some old threads and ran across this one.  How did it do?
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: gutpile on May 12, 2017, 09:23:20 am
she is a beauty... quite the shooter feels great in hand...super light in weight with no handshock... ended up high forties at 26.5.... I skinned her with some canebreaks.... left the belly white... Had her reflexed about 3 inches prior to tiller...she lost 2 of that during last few inches of tiller...holds the 1 inch well after shooting... Love this bow....thanks for asking.. I may even enter her in BOM soon..just havent had time to so...
I have a few more staves clean no knots ..really straight... I am out of sinew though so they will have to wait...sinew and cedar are a great combo IMO...
she is 61 inches tip to tip..has  1-1/2 fades 4 inch handle..... gut
Title: Re: sinew erc tiller advise
Post by: simson on May 12, 2017, 03:19:37 pm
Looks good so far,
.... let's see the pics with the origin string!
ANd some details, please!