Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: penderbender on October 17, 2016, 04:21:43 pm
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Is ca glue fine for horn nocks? Or is epoxy better? Never done horn nocks but I'm going to. Haha thanks- Brendan
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I use thick CA
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What about super glue for gluing horn?
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I always use super clue, Hans
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I use locktight professional super glue and have never had a failure. The two mating surfaces have to match up perfectly, then i justput a liberal amount on the bow surface that gets the horn and place the horn on it and move it so it is fully coated and press it together for a few seconds, no clamps rubber bands or anything
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I am always amused that people will build an extensively glued up bow that requires longer curing times and maybe even a spell in an oven but when it comes to last bits they just can't wait more than a few seconds.
Epoxy does have a lot of advantages despite needing an overnight wait so I just grit my teeth and use it.
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I do like Bubby and never had one come off.
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I do like Bubby and never had one come off.
Yep ..... me too. but I bet epoxy works just as well.......
DBar
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Thanks for all the replies guys! I'm gonna use thick ca cause that's what I have. Cheers- Brendan
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Just remember CA doesn't fill voids epoxy does.........................
DBar
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I've used TB glues, super glue, thin and gel and epoxy, all with good results
If you use deer antler and super glue saturate the pithy center of the antler first, sand flat and glue to the tip. If you don't seal the pithy center first you will get a dry glue joint.
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Epoxy may be a better choice for a porous antler joint....there may be something to.... when you say use "the type glue for the application"....... there is not one glue for every glue joint.....
DBar
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Sure there is, Epoxy! lol
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Point well taken PatM ... ;)
DBar
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I had a couple failures with crazy glue and overlays so I stopped using it. Never had one with TB
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I have always used a quality 2 part epoxy, and have never had a problem
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When it comes to CA glue I only use LocTite Professional, But pappy did give me a bottle of some super strong CA glue, wish I had some more of that.
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I had a couple failures with crazy glue and overlays so I stopped using it. Never had one with TB
Marc...if you have had success with TB on overlays then I'm sure you would have success with loctite CA glue and not have to wait...............it's all about the mating surfaces.
DBar
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Usually industrial super glue but sometimes epoxy or TB3, all work fine for me if the joint is good and well cleaned. :) Eddie I will give you another bottle if you make it up in November. ;) :) :)
Pappy
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:) :) :) :)
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From what I have seen, when crazy glue sets it becomes quite brittle and that I think is the problem especially when you have a bow with high string tension and low string angle at brace. You don't have that problem with TB as it doesn't get brittle once set.
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I am always amused that people will build an extensively glued up bow that requires longer curing times and maybe even a spell in an oven but when it comes to last bits they just can't wait more than a few seconds.
Epoxy does have a lot of advantages despite needing an overnight wait so I just grit my teeth and use it.
Some people don't have heated chamber for curing the epoxy.
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I have used Loc Tite for the last maybe 100 bows or so, zero failures. If I cant see light through my glue joint, it will never come off, ever. The wood itself will split away first.
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I am always amused that people will build an extensively glued up bow that requires longer curing times and maybe even a spell in an oven but when it comes to last bits they just can't wait more than a few seconds.
Epoxy does have a lot of advantages despite needing an overnight wait so I just grit my teeth and use it.
Some people don't have heated chamber for curing the epoxy.
Hence the "maybe" but that was only to illustrate an element of patience anyway.
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My house has always been enough of a heat chamber to cure epoxy. I just use the 2 part stuff in the plastic syringe. 2Ton I think.
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A halogen work lamp at the proper distance will cure any epoxy. I have glued up entire bows using a few of them in sequnece. just some out of the box thinking when you want something bad enough but don't have exactly what you need.
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Ive always used gorilla glue for overlays..no failure as of yet...gut
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Epoxy is probably a better choice, but I've used CA glue forever with horn nocks. If you get the cheap, thin stuff it actually floods into the horn fibres as well, which gives the most amazing bond, provided the fit is just right. Epoxy is great if you're not confident on the fit though.
I tried getting a pair of nocks off a bow recently, and they'd been glued on with some horrible cheap CA and I ended up having to cut them off, and drill the wood out.
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Epoxy is probably a better choice, but I've used CA glue forever with horn nocks. If you get the cheap, thin stuff it actually floods into the horn fibres as well, which gives the most amazing bond, provided the fit is just right. Epoxy is great if you're not confident on the fit though.
I tried getting a pair of nocks off a bow recently, and they'd been glued on with some horrible cheap CA and I ended up having to cut them off, and drill the wood out.
I like the sounds of that as I also use cheap CA. Never had a problem on anything else. Thanks- Brendan
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I know it is good enough for this particular job but I'd stay away from 'cheap' superglue. There is a marked difference in quality. Get industrial grade superglue. Takes some finding but all superglues are not equal.
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I have been using super glue from many brands to build model airplanes for over 30 years. From everything I have read, most of the stuff comes from the same source overseas. Manufacturers list the point of origin by the most expensive element of the product, in this case, the bottle. I find quality is more affected by age than by brand. Heat and humidity will mess with the glue. As it gets old, it gets thicker, which helps fill the gaps you should not have tolerated, but hinders the penetraion that you need for a good joint. To make your CA last longer, keep it in the freezer.