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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: MadisonManuel on September 12, 2016, 07:31:43 am

Title: I need advice.
Post by: MadisonManuel on September 12, 2016, 07:31:43 am
Hello world my name is madison I am wanting to make an ipe bow backed with hickory. I was wondering if someone could give me some dimensions for an ipe bow backed with hickory and some advice. Thank you very much.
Title: Re: I need advice.
Post by: Badger on September 12, 2016, 07:45:02 am
  Antime you are working with a heavy wood like ipe you want to keep the outer limbs pretty narrow. It depends on the style of bow you are building. A stiff handled american long bow, an r/d longbow or an English longbow style will all have different dimensions. Have you settled on a design yet? Most of my stiff handled bows end up about 1 1/4 wide.
Title: Re: I need advice.
Post by: bubby on September 12, 2016, 02:33:17 pm
Like badger said rough out 1-1/4" wide but u can get a heavy stick out of a inch wide piece
Title: Re: I need advice.
Post by: FilipT on September 12, 2016, 03:28:39 pm
What would be general dimensions for r/d longbow of for example 68 or 66" ntn?
Title: Re: I need advice.
Post by: Bryce on September 12, 2016, 04:18:35 pm
I would go skinnier. Like 1" it doesn't take a lot of pie to make a bow, and you don't want to end up with too much hickory then the bow will take more set than need be.  What's your draw length?
For me I would 66" ntn if it's an R/D

Anyways keep up updated with the build and we can help every step of the way

Have fun!
Title: Re: I need advice.
Post by: MadisonManuel on September 12, 2016, 09:01:08 pm
I'm planing on an American long bow design with a rigid handel and a riser. From nok to nok will be 59in and I have a 27in draw length. I also plan on hunting with this bow.
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Post by: loon on September 12, 2016, 11:12:58 pm
Why not bamboo/ipe?
Title: Re: I need advice.
Post by: MadisonManuel on September 13, 2016, 12:56:47 pm
Hickory is easier to get my hands on and I heard that bamboo comes off easy.
Title: Re: I need advice.
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on September 13, 2016, 01:11:13 pm
You heard wrong sir.
Title: Re: I need advice.
Post by: Bryce on September 13, 2016, 02:00:17 pm
Hickory is easier to get my hands on and I heard that bamboo comes off easy.

Hahaha well you heard wrong.

Boo+ipe is one of my favorite combos. And it's one fast and deadly combinations
Title: Re: I need advice.
Post by: FilipT on September 13, 2016, 03:15:05 pm
Not everyone has access to bamboo "boards" to use for the backing. I certainly don't, you can buy bamboo here only for the floors, that means its decrowned, thick and wouldn't work as a backing.
Also don't have hickory in Europe. What would be good substitute for the backing? I am not trying to derail Madison's thread and I think he is also interested in answer.
Title: Re: I need advice.
Post by: PatM on September 13, 2016, 04:07:44 pm
There's nothing wrong with hickory but good hickory seems to be a fairly rare thing. Ash is also a very good backing and available in Europe.
  Maple works very well too.
Title: Re: I need advice.
Post by: FilipT on September 13, 2016, 05:22:29 pm
Like decrowned boards from ash/maple, or thin crowned pieces of wood?
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Post by: bubby on September 13, 2016, 06:19:22 pm
First how many bows have you built? 59 ntn is a little short for a newbie builder 66" ttt is much more doable for an inexperienced builder and will hunt just fine. If you have a good pc of hickory use it but i prefer hard maple or boo with boo my first choice. I guess i would go 1-1/8" wide from the fades to 12" from the tips with 2" fades and a 4" grip
Title: Re: I need advice.
Post by: PatM on September 13, 2016, 06:21:00 pm
Straight grain is more important than the particular orientation of the cut but actual outer portions of trees works best. Essentially make a backing from wood the same way bamboo is used.
Title: Re: I need advice.
Post by: MadisonManuel on September 14, 2016, 12:22:24 am
Thanks bubby. I have built 3 red oke board bows at 59in ntn and they perform well. I like a challenge, if the bow fails I will start over and build another one lol. How thick should the limbs be about?
Title: Re: I need advice.
Post by: loon on September 14, 2016, 04:58:06 am
woah.. nice job w/ the red oak. Hope I can reach that point. You did rigid handle 59" red oak bows with a 27" draw??
Title: Re: I need advice.
Post by: MadisonManuel on September 14, 2016, 08:26:29 am
Thanks bubby on the good advice. I have only made 3 59in ntn red oke board bows and they all performed well. I think I can handle it. Any advice on how thick the limbs should be?and my backing is 1/8in thick.
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Post by: bubby on September 14, 2016, 10:35:58 am
I would hate to give a dimension and have it come in under weight but if you start with total thickness of 1/2" you should have plenty of wood
Title: Re: I need advice.
Post by: MadisonManuel on September 14, 2016, 10:58:12 am
woah.. nice job w/ the red oak. Hope I can reach that point. You did rigid handle 59" red oak bows with a 27" draw??
  I tiled it to 30in so I would never over draw it. I haven't wade the draw weight for it yet but it feels heavy. I will post a pic of it when I get off.
Title: Re: I need advice.
Post by: MadisonManuel on September 14, 2016, 11:02:07 am
Thanks patM and bubby great advice much appreciated.
Title: Re: I need advice.
Post by: loon on September 14, 2016, 03:08:13 pm
if you live in North America, I've heard Jaap Koppedrayer's bow bamboo is pretty good..