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Title: My Newest Ojibwa Scalloped Bow
Post by: El Destructo on March 02, 2008, 11:13:22 pm
This a Bow I built last year that is a replica of the Upper Michigan Ojibwa Style Bows....it is a Selfbow made of only Hickory....it is 58" long ....56" N.T.N....1 1/4" wide at the Handle...and 2" wide at the widest point of the Scallops....tapering to 3/4" Tips....the Top Tip is notched for the String and Pin nocked on top for the Horse Hair Tassel to be attached....It Draws 54 pounds at 26 inches...I made the Grip out of Whitetail Rawhide I made and stitched it on when it was still damp...so that it would shrink up tight ...The Opposite Draw Side is Scalloped with serrations burned into the whole edge from top to bottom....I spiffied it up a Bit with some Native Drawings also....even though Kokopeli is Anasazi He looks like He belongs on this Bow ....I just couldn't leave Him out.....seeing as Kokopeli roughly means Wooden Backed.....He really fits!! The String is Braided B50 with a Flemish Loop on one end and a Timber Hitch on the other for Adjusting the Brace Height ...just like the Originals... I added Mink Silencers too. The Bow is then sealed with a mix of Bear Grease and Beeswax for a good Water-resistant coating.

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Post by: El Destructo on March 02, 2008, 11:15:34 pm
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Post by: El Destructo on March 02, 2008, 11:17:28 pm
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Post by: mullet on March 02, 2008, 11:18:32 pm
  SWEET!
Title: Re: Ojibwa Bow
Post by: Hillbilly on March 02, 2008, 11:28:06 pm
Nice bow. I like that quiver, too. I haven't tackled one of those scalloped bows yet. but there's one on the to-do list. Do the scallops give you fits tillering or does it tiller out pretty much like any other bow?
Title: Re: Ojibwa Bow
Post by: El Destructo on March 02, 2008, 11:32:48 pm
Nice bow. I like that quiver, too. I haven't tackled one of those scalloped bows yet. but there's one on the to-do list. Do the scallops give you fits tillering or does it tiller out pretty much like any other bow?

Thanks Hillbilly.....I learned a lot off of this Bow....Scallops are not for the Fast and Furious Crowd....You just have to really take your time and Nail the Tiller....because the Scallops do make it susceptible to Hinges ...if you are not carefull....as for the Quiver....it was my first Try ....so I am happy with it.....so are the Arrows ....they are my first Selfnocks too
Title: Re: Ojibwa Bow
Post by: 1/2primitive on March 02, 2008, 11:50:29 pm
Very nice bow...what's the draw weight and length?
    Sean
Title: Re: Ojibwa Bow
Post by: El Destructo on March 02, 2008, 11:52:58 pm
Very nice bow...what's the draw weight and length?
    Sean
Oops....forgot the Specs!!!!! My Bad   >:D  .....I added it to the Write-up.........
Title: Re: Ojibwa Bow
Post by: cowboy on March 03, 2008, 12:01:22 am
Hellofabow, Yankee. - Lot's of attention to detail!! May I be so attentative one day :). That's one hell of an accomplishment - what else do ya have hidin in the corniers?? ;D.
Title: Re: Ojibwa Bow
Post by: El Destructo on March 03, 2008, 12:07:43 am
Hellofabow, Yankee. - Lot's of attention to detail!! May I be so attentative one day :). That's one hell of an accomplishment - what else do ya have hidin in the corniers?? ;D.

I cant reveal them all at once....I will never get a B.O.M. if I do!!!I have to stick them out there one at a time.....heck I have two Closets full now...the Wife is threating to cut me Off....if I dont start selling them or give them away!!!!

If I could build Bows ....like you can knap rocks....I would be soooo Happy!!!!!
Title: Re: Ojibwa Bow
Post by: George Tsoukalas on March 03, 2008, 12:30:57 am
That is an outstanding bow. Really well tillered and decorated. Jawge
Title: Re: Ojibwa Bow
Post by: El Destructo on March 03, 2008, 12:32:32 am
That is an outstanding bow. Really well tillered and decorated. Jawge

Coming from You Jawge... I take this as a great Compliment...I have learned a lot from your Site over the years...so part of this Credit is Yours.....I thank you
Title: Re: Ojibwa Bow
Post by: Traxx on March 03, 2008, 01:08:34 am
Now that right there,is the kinda stuff i like to see on the site.Great Job n congrats.
Title: Re: Ojibwa Bow
Post by: El Destructo on March 03, 2008, 01:17:51 am
Thanks Traxx....I am glad that you like it....I believe in Simplicity in building a Selfbow....I don't go for all of the Glitz and Shine....I try to stay true to the Bows I build....Simple Designs and Simple Finishes....even though I have been told that they are too simple...or just plain Crap before...I will not change my way of building Native American Bows
Title: Re: Ojibwa Bow
Post by: Traxx on March 03, 2008, 02:27:17 am
Well,the only crap,is whats commin outa their mouths.You just keep on a doin what yer doin,and ill keep on enjoyin,and admirein it.
Title: Re: Ojibwa Bow
Post by: El Destructo on March 03, 2008, 02:34:03 am
You got it Traxx.....I don't let the Narrow Minded bother me any more .....I am all grown up now ::) ::).....I don't need to impress anyone for attention....I love what we do here....and I really appreciate most of the People that are here too....lots of help and information all free for the asking....what a good bunch of Neighbors!!!!!
Title: Re: Ojibwa Bow
Post by: Dustybaer on March 03, 2008, 02:55:10 am
that IS an accomplishment.  i had the same concern about the scallops, but you nailed it.  congratulations.  beautiful set.  just one remark:  you don't seem to wrap your selfnocks on your arrows.  i would be afraid of one braking during the shot.
Title: Re: Ojibwa Bow
Post by: El Destructo on March 03, 2008, 03:04:48 am
Dustybaer....these Selfnock are reinforced with an inlaid Hardwood Spline,,,,they will not break....but these are also not finished....if you look in the Full Draw Picture....you will see that there is no Tip on the Arrow....I plan to sinew the Nocks and the Fletchings down also....thanks for your compliments..........Michael
Title: Re: Ojibwa Bow
Post by: Dustybaer on March 03, 2008, 04:01:56 am
yep, now that you mention it (may be i should invest in a new pair of glasses  ;D)  will you show pictures of the arrows when finished?  (i just can't get enough of that stuff  ;D )
Title: Re: Ojibwa Bow
Post by: DanaM on March 03, 2008, 07:40:19 am
yankee what can I say except Holy Wuh Eh!!!  dats a nice un ;D Well done one of them is also on my list.
Ya have 2 closets full and yer wife is making threats what a coinsidence I have an empty closet ;D
Really like this one bring it with when ya come back to Da UP in August eh. Would like to see that one in person.
Title: Re: Ojibwa Bow
Post by: Pappy on March 03, 2008, 08:23:08 am
Beautiful bow,I love the art work.Mighty fine job. :)
    Pappy
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Post by: El Destructo on March 03, 2008, 09:12:36 am
Thanks Pappy.....and Dana ....If I dnt take my Scooter Home this Summer....I will find room for at least this Bow....been out digging out from under this Freak Blizzard we got last night.....probably wont get to work today......aint that a Crime!!!!

I am a little Bummed Out though....I hear tell Dana and Wibowyer ....and a Bunch More are going to Pappies....and I got to stay here in Texas and keep the Refineries going...Ya'll need dat Gasoline >:D >:D
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Post by: jamie on March 03, 2008, 09:25:58 am
very cool
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Post by: Woodland Roamer on March 03, 2008, 09:28:47 am
That's a nice looking bow and really unique. Nice job.

Alan
Title: Re: My Newest Ojibwa Scalloped Bow
Post by: El Destructo on March 04, 2008, 12:50:50 am
Thank You Alan and Jamie....I appreciate the compliments....this was a pretty good challenge for me....These Bows are bears to Tiller....they want to hinge on you really easy...have to be very patient and go slow...and work the Wood a lot between scrapings....now it's off to my next Bow....a Red Elm Character Stave....never worked with Red Elm before...seems to be different than American Elm....we'll see what it decides to become!!!
Title: Re: My Newest Ojibwa Scalloped Bow
Post by: OldBow on March 04, 2008, 01:20:19 am
Looks like an authentic self bow to me.  Very nice and bookmarked for March Self Bow of the Month.
I didn't know the Ojibwa used the same art as the Anasazi Indians.
Title: Re: My Newest Ojibwa Scalloped Bow
Post by: El Destructo on March 04, 2008, 01:33:44 am
Looks like an authentic self bow to me.  Very nice and bookmarked for March Self Bow of the Month.
I didn't know the Ojibwa used the same art as the Anasazi Indians.

Don...The Anishinaabe People dont use Anasazi Drawings.....but since Kokopelli translates roughly to "wooden back"....and He is such a character....I thought He was fitting for a Bow with some Character!!
Title: Re: My Newest Ojibwa Scalloped Bow
Post by: Keenan on March 04, 2008, 12:55:45 pm
 Yankee, ya done real good there, ;D ;D That is one great acomplishment and it's nice to see something that cotains both history and uniqueness.  I will have to try one of thoses some day.   Keenan
Title: Re: My Newest Ojibwa Scalloped Bow
Post by: Marc St Louis on March 04, 2008, 01:21:31 pm
Very nice bow Yankee
Title: Re: My Newest Ojibwa Scalloped Bow
Post by: El Destructo on March 04, 2008, 10:37:49 pm
Thanks Keenan.........I can send you a Template of this Bow......if you would like...and Marc....I am always up for some Scrutinizing too....if you can come up with anything I can do different ....or Better on the next Bow I would appreciate the Help....and We all know that there will be another Bow..Shhhhh....don't tell the Wife!!!!
Title: Re: My Newest Ojibwa Scalloped Bow
Post by: cowboy on March 04, 2008, 10:47:19 pm
 ;D ;D
Title: Re: My Newest Ojibwa Scalloped Bow
Post by: 1/2primitive on March 05, 2008, 12:01:21 am
Very nice, I like the simple Indian bows, and you've got a good one there.
   Sean
Title: Re: My Newest Ojibwa Scalloped Bow
Post by: El Destructo on March 05, 2008, 12:16:16 am
Very nice, I like the simple Indian bows, and you've got a good one there.
   Sean

Thanks Sean....I have seen your Bows and I really like the detail you put in to yours as well....I like the Primitive Bows....nothing fancy...no fancy high gloss buffed Shine or Rainforest Tree Tip Overlays here.....I like them as simple as possible...less can go wrong.... Next step...I learn to make Sinew Strings..then they will be Totally Primitive!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: My Newest Ojibwa Scalloped Bow
Post by: Postman on March 05, 2008, 11:19:16 am
Awesome bow - what was the purpose of scalloping the bow for them? It seems  it would be hard with primitive tools and take a lot more time - though it does look really cool......
Title: Re: My Newest Ojibwa Scalloped Bow
Post by: El Destructo on March 11, 2008, 02:38:23 am
The Scallops are strictly Onamental....and really arent that hard to carve into the Sides....if you look at the Profile of the Bow....it is just a regular Flatbow...with the Scallops added....what I am trying to say....is if you draw a straight line from handle to tip.....it is the same on both sides of the Bow....the deepest parts of the Scallops are the same width as the Bow is on the other side..... These were carved out with a Drawknife...so I can see that they would be easy enough to scrape out with a nice sharp piece of Basalt or Flint

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Title: Re: My Newest Ojibwa Scalloped Bow
Post by: Postman on March 13, 2008, 03:13:30 pm
OK...Thanks for the explanation. Gonna have to try one of those someday. Love the authentic aspect to it.