Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Primitive Skills => Topic started by: Spotted Dog on July 20, 2016, 10:09:49 pm
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A King Wm. III 1680s musket. Myself and friend Mike Davis who did the assembly that I can't do and I did the finish work.
.775/10 ga. 46" barrel, iron and brass mounts and a 6 13/16" lock. Walnut stock. Parts from The Rifle Shoppe.
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Beautiful!
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You should have went with a bigger caliber. Do you really think a 1.6 oz ball will kill something? >:D
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I wouldn't want to drop it on my foot. :)
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SWEET!
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Nice ! I just finished a Indian Trade Gun from a kit - .62 cal./20 ga. Smoothbore Flinter. Lots of FUN to shoot ! Bob
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Whew! That's a hand full of pretty metal. :o
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Very nice....time to put some petina on it now. Hunting with a flintlock is a special kind of hunting.
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Thank you all. It might kill a squirrel ::)
Balances well. I like smoothbore flinters. It will shoot .735 - 760 round ball or shot.
Dog
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Thank you all. It might kill a squirrel ::)
Balances well. I like smoothbore flinters. It will shoot .735 - 760 round ball or shot.
Dog
And you have the luxury of loading anything from as light as a .410 load to a heavy 10 ga. load! Yup, that's one fine piece of equipment.
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I love this stuff! I want a "Brown Bess" good job Jeff W
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Very nice.. That's alotta gun.. Be afraid turkeys be very afraid....
Thanks Leroy
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That'll make a bang!!!!How much that sucker weigh carrying it around?????46" barrel????That's a mans' gun.Shoots darn near an ounce ball about does'nt it???Had a Sharps once with a 36" barrel and that weighed about 15#'s.
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This one is just under 10 pounds. All the parts are made off of originals. 17th century men were smaller than
us now and they carried these into war.
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Ed, shoots more then an ounce. My 12 gauge shoots an ounce round ball, .69 cal.
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Yowzaaa!!!
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A 10 ga. technically is measured by casting lead balls in the exact diameter of the bore and counting how many balls it takes to add up to a pound. In the case of a ten guage, that would be...lemme see, gotta do the math...sixteen ounces to the pound, one tench of a pound, carry the 7, subtract the exponent, square the compound interest, the train leaving Philadelphia was travelling south at 44 miles per hour...aw heck, you figger it out.
Something like 1.6 oz, or 700 grains.
Typically, in these bigger bores, folks like to choose a roundball about 15-20/1,000ths smaller than the actual bore.
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;D
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I see yea.Don't ya love going back to school.Ha ha ha.
All I'm really familiar with is my .54 cal.Johnny brown hawken gun.I shoot around a 280 grain or so ball from that with a .52 cal ball with a.10 pillow tick patch.I just estimated the weight comparing caliber to grains.
That .75 caliber ball will give a heck of a shove on your shoulder with 150 grains behind it.An ounce and a half....I'd use some FF in it to have it burn a tad slower and reduce the jolt some.What a gun!!!
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I will start with 90ff . ! go .015 under bore and wad like a shot gun. I also take the ball and put them
on a board and with a old rasp roll them around and put marks in the ball. They will shoot straighter
and farther like a golf ball. In the 18th century the did that. Kegs of RB have been found that way.
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I have "plated" cast balls between two sheets of glass and rolled to flatten the sprues, but I have never heard of dimpling!
My .62 has proven pretty straight shooting, but now I have to wonder if I can get a little more effective range from her with this trick!!!
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Dimpled balls or else called chewed balls.. There's 2 schools of thought on those.. The yaa or naa crowd.. Can't hurt giver a try.. I rescued a unloved 40cal smoothbore some ham handed hack tried to improve the lock and refinish the stock.. It's my winter project.. I want to give dimpled balls a honest go and see what happens..
JW - That's some fine gizzintas
Thanks Leroy
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The late Kit Ravenshear and Jess Melott passed along this info years ago
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They had an article in one of the recent Muzzleloader Magazines about dimpled balls. It was pretty interesting.
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I first read about it on the American longrifle forom .. It does a long history behind it.. In a lot of ways makes sense.. Compared to a golf ball but I believe predates it.. There was a thread on the forom and a fellow built a tumbler.. It was a stainless steel bowl mounted on about a 45' angle powered by a small motor and the roundballs slowly tumbled over each other producing dimples much like a golf ball..
Thanks Leroy
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I wonder if originally they were just trying to get the ball to fit the barrel better and found that they shot better. I can't imagine that they were thinking about aerodynamics.
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paper cartridges were the norm for the military. Except matchlocks . They used the apostle gear.
They were ahead for their time. Just primitive to us.
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Great gun and getting all the parts from the Rifle Shop makes it really special according to what other folk have said about dealing with the place.
I have an Issac Hanes kit waiting in the wings that I bought off the Stickbow classified. Some guy bought it from Track, kept it a long time and realized he didn't have the skills to put it together. He traded it to another guy for some vintage bows, the other guy was a flintlock builder. I bought the kit from guy #2 for $650 shipped. Guy #2 told me he was a builder with more barrels and wood than he could ever get to in his lifetime so he sold the kit to raise a little cash.
This kit has the best of everything, Rice Barrel, Chambers lock, at least grade 5 wood and already has the buttplate and sights installed by Track. I totaled the kits parts on Tracks website and came up with $1100 conservatively, sometime you just get lucky.
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I guess I have been fortunate. Every time I have got parts from them they had all I needed.
I had the parts for this one in 2 weeks.