Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Around the Campfire => Topic started by: jayman448 on April 05, 2016, 07:41:08 pm
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I was looking at a rossi circut judge seeing its apparently suitable for 45lc and .410 shot. Would one be able to shoot 44 mag out of this too seeing as its between 45 and 410? I dont know much of anything about pistol rounds...
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It's for the .45 or 410. Not a 44 mag.
Copied and pasted from taurus website:
Caliber: .45/.410 (2.5" chamber)
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Ok. So for interest sake. Why would it not fit a 44 mag? They used to be (sold in california i believe)anyone know the measurements?
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One thing to remember is the power behind a 44 mag. Will the gun survive ? No they are not compatible.
Head space, rim, etc.
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Because more then likely it would probably come apart in your hand.
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Dog, I was forty seconds behind you.
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44 mag is a considerably smaller diameter case and bullet. It's not actually.44 caliber, but .429 caliber. Where as the 45 lc is .452 caliber. Not to mention a whole heap more powerful cartridge. The 44 mag would rattle around loose in the cylinder and with no support for the case it would certainly rupture. If you have to have more power I would recommend the Taurus raging judge. It fires .45 lc, .454 casull and .410. The .454 is a handful and the ammo ain't cheap. Josh
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Taurus makes nice revolvers. I have a Taurus 44 mag. revolver with the 8 3/8" barrel. It's a great shooting gun. I've killed 3 deer with it.
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44 mag is a considerably smaller diameter case and bullet. It's not actually.44 caliber, but .429 caliber. Where as the 45 lc is .452 caliber. Not to mention a whole heap more powerful cartridge. The 44 mag would rattle around loose in the cylinder and with no support for the case it would certainly rupture. If you have to have more power I would recommend the Taurus raging judge. It fires .45 lc, .454 casull and .410. The .454 is a handful and the ammo ain't cheap. Josh
But it is still bigger than .410. I just cant wrap my head around dual caliber guns. You can fire a .410 slug or a .45 but not a .452? Makes no sence to me. Haha
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Ok...the cylinder bore diameter is the key here. Shotgun shells have a thicker plastic hull. So even though the wad is .410 caliber(quite smaller than a .45 slug) the outside diameter of the shell is pretty close to that of the .45 lc except the length of course. Close enough that the cylinder supports the shell when the .410 is fired. The wad and shotload just expand out to fill the bore when fired, so that's not really an issue. Different caliber slugs are an entirely different matter. I hope that clears it up for you. Josh
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What are you Josh, some sort our gun doctor or something!?
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Ok...the cylinder bore diameter is the key here. Shotgun shells have a thicker plastic hull. So even though the wad is .410 caliber(quite smaller than a .45 slug) the outside diameter of the shell is pretty close to that of the .45 lc except the length of course. Close enough that the cylinder supports the shell when the .410 is fired. The wad and shotload just expand out to fill the bore when fired, so that's not really an issue. Different caliber slugs are an entirely different matter. I hope that clears it up for you. Josh
Gun Doc speaks the truth... Just cause a shell is called something don't mean that's the exact measurement.. 38 special is .357''.. Never put anything but the correct ammo in any firearm.. It is stamped on the barrel for a reason.. Be safe
Thanks Leroy
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I remember some of the old timers say that you could fire a 44-40 cartridge in a 410 so I wonder why they don't chamber for that caliber.
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I've heard that also Marc.. The 45lc is more popular than the 44-40 win and close enough
Thanks Leroy
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I've heard that before as well Marc, but I never talked to anyone that was dumb enough to actually try it themselves. Aside from the unsupported case in the what would be considered oversized chamber for the .44-40, there is the issue of trying to push a .427 caliber slug down a thin walled .410 bore barrel. That's if its cylinder bore choke. Considering that full choke on a .410 is .385 bad things are gonna happen. Just so there are no misunderstandings, while you can shoot .410 shotgun shells in a firearm chambered in 45 lc, you CANNOT fire 45 lc in a .410 shotgun! Long before the long chambered"judges" were produced, handloaders were cutting down .410 shotshells to fire in 45 lc's. They were known as snake charmers in my area. I wouldn't recommend trying it if your not very knowledgeable about reloading. As has been stated previously, only use the correct ammo specified by the manufacturer. Especially if your understanding of firearms and related physics are limited. Josh