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Title: Breaking free from cedar
Post by: Electricfrontporch on March 18, 2016, 10:32:06 pm
Finally made a few that fly good. Rivercane shafts with artificial sinew wrapped turkey fletching. Points are Georgetown keokuk and obsidian. Thanks for looking.....Noah
Title: Re: Breaking free from cedar
Post by: Pat B on March 18, 2016, 10:49:30 pm
Nice!  They look quite effective. 
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Post by: Del the cat on March 19, 2016, 03:03:55 am
Sweet :)
Del
Title: Re: Breaking free from cedar
Post by: JW_Halverson on March 19, 2016, 02:44:22 pm
Only thing I like about cedar is that they smell good when they break. 

Nice bow bullets you got there! 
Title: Re: Breaking free from cedar
Post by: tattoo dave on March 21, 2016, 04:43:35 pm
I strongly agree with JW!! They do smell good.

Sweet lookin cane arrows. You did a great job.

Tattoo Dave
Title: Re: Breaking free from cedar
Post by: Electricfrontporch on March 21, 2016, 04:49:26 pm
They do smell good but the price stinks! Glad to have gained the ability to make bullets for free!     Noah
Title: Re: Breaking free from cedar
Post by: Danzn Bar on March 21, 2016, 05:40:17 pm
Very nice.....they look like they'll get the job done.....glad their flying good for ya.
I'm a big fan of rivercane.
DBar
Title: Re: Breaking free from cedar
Post by: Dakota Kid on March 30, 2016, 12:38:10 am
The right piece of ERC will make a decent arrow with the same pleasant aroma. The price is much better, sometimes free depending on location.
Title: Re: Breaking free from cedar
Post by: make-n-break on March 30, 2016, 08:18:37 am
I don't have any luck with ERC or WRC. I've tried a couple times but they always end up under spined, light, and brittle  :-\
Title: Re: Breaking free from cedar
Post by: Dakota Kid on March 31, 2016, 08:40:36 pm
It takes the right piece of wood for sure. I was never able to get a spine over 55# out of erc, but the ones I got were light and fast. Rubbing oil into them help with the brittleness. I've used everything from motor & cooking oils to tung & linseed oil with similar results. I like to use cooking oil for a few coats after a week or two I'll seal them with a wood oil. I never use any power tools to make them either, just a surform and sand paper. They are far to prone to tear out.

For what it's worth I've switched over to tulip poplar for my wood shafts, more durable. I still use ash on occasion if I need a heavy hitter. I also use bamboo stakes. I found a deal on them $70 for 500 @ 3/8" diameter. The boo is far more durable than any wood I've seen thus far.

I use the ERC for kids arrows and other lighter weight bows. The poplar would work I'm sure, but as was stated cedar just smells so wonderful. I'd hate to eliminate from my shop entirely. I also use it to make flutes and to line trinket boxes. 
Title: Re: Breaking free from cedar
Post by: WatchRyder on April 01, 2016, 03:15:46 pm
Only thing I like about cedar is that they smell good when they break. 

Nice bow bullets you got there!

They smell good even before that. My niggle against them is when you wood stain cedar you can't let it dry 'wet' with any excessive coating or it'll leave a residue (unlike pine which absorbs it more).
Title: Re: Breaking free from cedar
Post by: BowEd on April 02, 2016, 10:51:09 am
Good looking stickers there.
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Post by: bow101 on April 02, 2016, 03:03:38 pm
"Breaking free from cedar"   what kind of cedar...?  Port Orford.  There are others that are just as good, like Yellow cedar, Hemlock, D-Fir etc.....etc....   Port Orford is overrated.  >:D
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Post by: WatchRyder on April 03, 2016, 12:07:31 pm
"Breaking free from cedar"   what kind of cedar...?  Port Orford.  There are others that are just as good, like Yellow cedar, Hemlock, D-Fir etc.....etc....   Port Orford is overrated.  >:D
It's widely available though, although an internet rumor a year or so ago said the supplies were running low...
Title: Re: Breaking free from cedar
Post by: WatchRyder on April 03, 2016, 12:08:51 pm
It takes the right piece of wood for sure. I was never able to get a spine over 55# out of erc, but the ones I got were light and fast. Rubbing oil into them help with the brittleness. I've used everything from motor & cooking oils to tung & linseed oil with similar results. I like to use cooking oil for a few coats after a week or two I'll seal them with a wood oil. I never use any power tools to make them either, just a surform and sand paper. They are far to prone to tear out.

For what it's worth I've switched over to tulip poplar for my wood shafts, more durable. I still use ash on occasion if I need a heavy hitter. I also use bamboo stakes. I found a deal on them $70 for 500 @ 3/8" diameter. The boo is far more durable than any wood I've seen thus far.

I use the ERC for kids arrows and other lighter weight bows. The poplar would work I'm sure, but as was stated cedar just smells so wonderful. I'd hate to eliminate from my shop entirely. I also use it to make flutes and to line trinket boxes.

$70 for 500 shafts? That is phenominal! I pay $25 for just 24 shafts of Northern Pine!
Title: Re: Breaking free from cedar
Post by: Electricfrontporch on April 05, 2016, 07:49:18 pm
It was a silly title I guess.....mostly meant breaking free from paying for shaft materials......Noah