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Title: Is this red osier?
Post by: lebhuntfish on March 05, 2016, 08:37:46 am

Just as the title says. My boss has a bunch of this growing around his house. If it is red osier,  I'm going to cut all the shafts I can find because he wants to cut them way back he says they are taking over. Thanks guy's.

Patrick

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Title: Re: Is this red osier?
Post by: Pat B on March 05, 2016, 09:01:10 am

Looks like red osier to me, Patrick...or it could be silky dogwood. I don't know which grows in your area. They both have red stems.

Title: Re: Is this red osier?
Post by: Swampman on March 05, 2016, 11:33:13 am

It looks like the red osier we have around here. 

Title: Re: Is this red osier?
Post by: Tracker0721 on March 05, 2016, 12:57:18 pm

If that's red osier then I'm in heaven. The creek has that stuff overflowing all the way till it runs into the river 5 miles away. I'm going collecting! How can you tell it apart from other red limbed shoots though?

Title: Re: Is this red osier?
Post by: lebhuntfish on March 05, 2016, 02:19:01 pm

Quote from: Pat B on March 05, 2016, 09:01:10 am

Looks like red osier to me, Patrick...or it could be silky dogwood. I don't know which grows in your area. They both have red stems.

Pat I'm pretty sure red osier is not native to my area. My boss said he bought these some 20 years ago but don't remember the name.

If they are silky dogwood, would they be good arrow shafts?

Patrick

Title: Re: Is this red osier?
Post by: crooketarrow on March 05, 2016, 04:14:04 pm

  Yep

Title: Re: Is this red osier?
Post by: Pat B on March 05, 2016, 05:36:51 pm

Its been years since I've tried silky. I have sourwood(my preference) and hill cane so silky is at least a third. It should work fine Patrick.

Title: Re: Is this red osier?
Post by: lebhuntfish on March 05, 2016, 11:36:29 pm

Thanks everyone,  I'm going to go cut all I can find. He said there is a bunch of them so hopefully there will be some good shafts in the mix. I'll let ya'll know what I get.

Patrick

Title: Re: Is this red osier?
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on March 06, 2016, 08:20:16 am

Look for second growth Patrick. Usually that means a main trunk around 1" round to make second growth 3/8 or better at the "point end". Just something to watch for if you have that much to choose from. It grows like weeds up here. I could cut 200 in an afternoon if I wanted to.

Title: Re: Is this red osier?
Post by: lebhuntfish on March 06, 2016, 10:50:55 am

Thanks Chris,  I'll do that. I've always tried to cut the older stuff when I find it. This is the only one I've seen around that I can remember.

Patrick

Title: Re: Is this red osier?
Post by: Buck67 on March 08, 2016, 10:40:06 am

The straightest Red Osier that I have been able to find grows in deep shade.  You have to bushwhack back into the thicket to find the good stuff.  It straightens pretty well with heat.  Just avoid the ones with a hard kink.

By the way.  A common name for Red Osier is Kinnikinnick.  The bark was dried and mixed with tobacco and other herbs as a smoking blend.  The smell is certainly distinctive.

Title: Re: Is this red osier?
Post by: lebhuntfish on March 08, 2016, 10:41:49 am

Thanks buck. I'll remember that!

Patrick

Title: Re: Is this red osier?
Post by: MWirwicki on March 08, 2016, 04:15:03 pm

Patrick, that looks like the red osier that I have on my property.  It makes nice shafts.  The new or second growth is usually the straightest and requires less correction.

Title: Re: Is this red osier?
Post by: lebhuntfish on March 08, 2016, 04:43:29 pm

Thanks Matt,  newer shoots is more likely what they are. My boss cuts them back every year.

Patrick