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Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: 1442 on February 14, 2016, 01:43:33 pm

Title: cane straightening
Post by: 1442 on February 14, 2016, 01:43:33 pm
These are some of the left overs from the cane I recently traded. I started out with thirteen but one snapped midway during the process. Another one broke near the end but there's enough left of it to make an arrow.
Shooting for #30 spine roughly for a youth bow that gets shot by a lot of different Jr. high students at my nephews house.
This first set of pics is right after initial straightening. My heat source is a propane torch that lost its airflow or something and makes a big candle looking flame instead of a pointed hissing flame like they are supposed to do. Works real good for heating cane.
Title: Re: cane straightening
Post by: 1442 on February 14, 2016, 01:45:04 pm
This next set of pics has the nodes sanded down
Title: Re: cane straightening
Post by: 1442 on February 14, 2016, 01:48:37 pm
Here I just went over them real good with a scraper to further smooth the nodes and break the rind so they will dry on out quickly. I'll let them set a few days before proceeding.
Title: Re: cane straightening
Post by: Knoll on February 14, 2016, 02:00:52 pm
Looks like ya know what you're doing. Thanks for posting.
Title: Re: cane straightening
Post by: riverrat on February 14, 2016, 09:14:34 pm
really nice work on them shafts. propains handy i guess. i like a candle. believe it or not it lasts a long long time and is dirt cheap. if you get a deer, the fat on the rump makes for some great free candles! love deer fat. its a waxy fat. great for burnished bows along with a smokey fire for water resistance and for heating shafts. Tony
Title: Re: cane straightening
Post by: 1442 on February 14, 2016, 11:17:06 pm
Thanks
Seems like I tried a candle before and it made black soot on the arrow. Maybe I had the wrong kind of candle.
Title: Re: cane straightening
Post by: BowEd on February 15, 2016, 07:27:07 am
I use a mantle lantern.No flame.An alladin lamp they call them.Kind of expensive but very handy.Use it when the current goes off in the house too.
Title: Re: cane straightening
Post by: DC on February 15, 2016, 10:49:19 am
The little alcohol burners that come with fondue set work nicely. No soot.
Title: Re: cane straightening
Post by: RidgeRunner on February 15, 2016, 01:23:38 pm
Looking real good.

Don't know where you are located 1442 but.....  Have you noticed Cane Patches Dying off??

Most of the patches I have collected from over the years are all dead....? :'(

Got to fine some more patches.

David

Title: Re: cane straightening
Post by: 1442 on February 15, 2016, 07:50:58 pm
Ridge runner
The cane patches where I collect at is located in the Sabine river drainage near the N end if Toledo bend lake on the LA side. The area was in a prolonged drought until about three years ago I guess and most of the cane died. I wish I woulda got to it sooner and cut all I could cause back then there was a lota lota  good tall straight cane.
The cane patches are recovering and getting better each year now. This year it's been too much rain and the cane has been flooded several times but is growing really good and theres a lot of good healthy young cane too.
The cane in this thread probably started life during the drought or shortly after it broke, and it grew shorter and more crooked than what good healthy cane can grow. Hopefully within the next couple years our patches will get thick and grow tall and straight again.
I hope your cane recovers, have y'all been drier than normal?
Title: Re: cane straightening
Post by: gutpile on February 17, 2016, 02:42:20 pm
I barely sand my nodes just knock the proud off, you wont mess with the integrity of cane ..... and certainly leave rind on for water proofing naturally... gut
Title: Re: cane straightening
Post by: DC on February 17, 2016, 03:02:45 pm
How does cane compare to garden center bamboo? Stiffness, strength, wall thickness, anything. Just curious as I'll probably never see any up here.
Title: Re: cane straightening
Post by: Pat B on February 17, 2016, 03:41:17 pm
Cane is a generic word. Most folks call bamboo cane. Plants like phragmites are cane but not as strong as bamboo.
 Tomato stakes are generally Tonkin cane(bamboo). Hill cane, switch cane and river cane are all native American bamboos in the Arundaneria genera.
Title: Re: cane straightening
Post by: le0n on February 17, 2016, 06:53:39 pm
The little alcohol burners that come with fondue set work nicely. No soot.

or you can make one out of a can that you aren't using.

here's one that i made from a mountain dew can:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Jl0rB547E1g/UudqX9dvFeI/AAAAAAAAFjA/paeEKt1mN6g/s647-no/14+-+1)

there are a few tutorials online for these.

just don't use rubbing alcohol in it because the water content will cause it to throw soot in the air.
Title: Re: cane straightening
Post by: Danzn Bar on February 17, 2016, 07:02:03 pm
The little alcohol burners that come with fondue set work nicely. No soot.

or you can make one out of a can that you aren't using.

here's one that i made from a mountain dew can:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-Jl0rB547E1g/UudqX9dvFeI/AAAAAAAAFjA/paeEKt1mN6g/s647-no/14+-+1)

there are a few tutorials online for these.

just don't use rubbing alcohol in it because the water content will cause it to throw soot in the air.


Cant believe that the aluminum last very long ..............alcohol is a hot flame and will burn/melt the can pretty fast....now if it were 400 series stainless steel it would last longer...I would be very careful with a pop can you could have a burning mess on your hands...
DBar
Title: Re: cane straightening
Post by: Knoll on February 17, 2016, 07:24:57 pm
Alcohol-burning stoves made from pop cans are quite robust. It was the only stove carried on my 4,200 mile x-country bicycle ride. Used at least once virtually every day

Fuel is readily available ..... the yellow-colored containers of HEET. NOT the red bottles!
Title: Re: cane straightening
Post by: Danzn Bar on February 17, 2016, 07:30:14 pm
I can be wrong......guess I've seen too many beer cans melt in a camp fire.... :)
DBar
Title: Re: cane straightening
Post by: Knoll on February 17, 2016, 07:32:17 pm
guess I've seen too many beer cans melt in a camp fire.... :)
DBar

no science, just experience    ;D  cheers!   ;D
Title: Re: cane straightening
Post by: BowEd on February 22, 2016, 09:01:11 am
Say have you ever tried a wide metal hot plate like the top of a big wood burner to roll and press them on with a couple of short 1" by 4"s'.Top of plate needs to get around 400 degrees at least.This is done after the nodes are sanded smooth.You can do more than one at a time too.
Title: Re: cane straightening
Post by: joachimM on February 22, 2016, 09:44:50 am
Hill cane, switch cane and river cane are all native American bamboos in the Arundaneria genera.

You probably mean in the Arundinaria genus
Yep, nitpicker is my nick name   ::)
Title: Re: cane straightening
Post by: Pat B on February 22, 2016, 01:29:43 pm
Exactly!