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Title: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Knoll on February 02, 2016, 10:43:12 am: We are fortunate to have many enthusiastic bowyers who attend MoJam. I'd like to challenge ya'll to a bit of friendly competition!

Build yourself a red oak BOARD bow. Bring it to MoJam. We'll shoot together a round of the full 3D course. Also the "Running Pig". Clout shoot too!

We'll find a means for keeping some kinda score and come up with appropriate awards. Award presentations will likely be Sat night at the potluck dinner!

Rules/regulations are simple enough. Both limbs to be from red oak and be considered by a reasonable person (me) :o to be a traditional style and shot in a traditional style (for example, not held by feet or loosed with a trigger). Overlays, built-up handles, glued-on flipped tips, any backing (except fg) acceptable ... even encouraged. If ya have question re acceptability, just post up here.

I'm looking forward to some good ole fun and bow eye-candy!! Hope all of you participate so we can see what can be done with the bow wood we love to poo-poo!
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Onebowonder on February 02, 2016, 11:26:22 am: Now ya done it Mike! :o ::) 8)

OneBow
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Knoll on February 02, 2016, 12:16:34 pm: Will soon be starting on one of Home Depot's primo boards!

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3403.jpg)
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: bubby on February 02, 2016, 12:33:06 pm: I was unaware that home depot had any " primo" boards 😋
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Onebowonder on February 02, 2016, 12:39:38 pm: Quote from: bubby on February 02, 2016, 12:33:06 pm
I was unaware that home depot had any " primo" boards 😋

So is Home Depot!

I go to my local specialty lumber place. I prolly pay a few nickels more, but that's OK. Home Depot's stuff is often pretty rough treated prior to making it to the sales floor/warehouse. Not that they cannot work, they certainly can! ...but if I'm going to compete with a sharpshooter like Mike, I'm going to grasp for every millimeter of advantage I can possibly find! >:D 8) :laugh:

OneBow
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: DavidV on February 02, 2016, 12:42:59 pm: What if I use white oak and dye it red? :laugh: O:)
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Onebowonder on February 02, 2016, 01:12:16 pm: What about using RO as the backing on a laminate bow with an alternative wood as the belly and core lams?

OneBow
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: George Tsoukalas on February 02, 2016, 01:25:51 pm: Yes, the big box stores do have good red oak. Just be choosy. Made many a bow from Home Depot red oak.

I went to Mojam in 2003.

LOL. It was as hot and humid as I expected it to be as i did training at Ft Leonard Wood in the early 70's.

Anyway, I bruught some red oak boards wit me and gave one away then.wit

Would love to be in contact with the recepient of that board.

Great idea. I'd love to go back. Too far from NH.

Jawge
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Knoll on February 02, 2016, 02:56:23 pm: Quote from: DavidV on February 02, 2016, 12:42:59 pm
What if I use white oak and dye it red? :laugh: O:)

;D naughty naughty feller! ;D
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Knoll on February 02, 2016, 02:57:36 pm: Quote from: Onebowonder on February 02, 2016, 01:12:16 pm
What about using RO as the backing on a laminate bow with an alternative wood as the belly and core lams?

OneBow

No problemo!
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Onebowonder on February 02, 2016, 04:02:20 pm: Over my lunch break I went out and bought some pretty nice Red Oak Quartersawn. This piece is 4.5 inches wide, just shy of 1.5 thick, and about 4.5 feet long. I should be able to rip some nice limb length lams out of this one... ;D ;D ;D

OneBow
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: sleek on February 02, 2016, 04:23:50 pm: Welp, i think i have a good one picked out. Hope i can make it.
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Onebowonder on February 02, 2016, 04:28:02 pm: Quote from: sleek on February 02, 2016, 04:23:50 pm
<snip> . . . Hope i can make it.
You're bringing the giant Air Conditioned Tent! You have to make it! >:( >:( >:(

OneBow
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: JonW on February 02, 2016, 06:02:15 pm: I have the ability to make RO look like Osage. I will bring somenice RO bows just remember they LOOK like Osage. ;)
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Knoll on February 02, 2016, 06:50:46 pm: Quote from: JonW on February 02, 2016, 06:02:15 pm
I have the ability to make RO look like Osage. I will bring somenice RO bows just remember they LOOK like Osage. ;)

Another naughty naughty fellow! >:D
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: sleek on February 02, 2016, 09:00:05 pm: Quote from: Knoll on February 02, 2016, 06:50:46 pm
Quote from: JonW on February 02, 2016, 06:02:15 pm
I have the ability to make RO look like Osage. I will bring somenice RO bows just remember they LOOK like Osage. ;)

Another naughty naughty fellow! >:D

Considering this group of scoundrels would you expect anything less?
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: lebhuntfish on February 02, 2016, 09:11:50 pm: Well enough of the chatter! I have one I will make into a pyramid bow. That is the only design I have not tried with RO. This will be my 6th attempt at RO the rest have been very unsuccessful. This will be a target bow and I intend to hit 40lbs. If it breaks I will use John's trick of making it look like Osage!
Patrick
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: bubby on February 02, 2016, 09:56:17 pm: Patrick thats the best red oak design, i built one yhat was40# for my dad in law that is a screamer
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Knoll on February 02, 2016, 09:56:43 pm: Longish and wideish makes 40# easy peezy!
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: DavidV on February 02, 2016, 10:55:41 pm: Quote from: Knoll on February 02, 2016, 02:56:23 pm
Quote from: DavidV on February 02, 2016, 12:42:59 pm
What if I use white oak and dye it red? :laugh: O:)

;D naughty naughty feller! ;D

Okay, I'll play along then...

I started this one a while ago from a home depot board. It's looong but only 1.5" wide. Riser is a chunk of curly oak.

(http://i.imgur.com/KmGc3IQ.jpg)
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: lebhuntfish on February 02, 2016, 11:04:43 pm: Looking good David!

Heat treat maybe?

Patrick
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Knoll on February 02, 2016, 11:05:53 pm: Looks ellllegant!
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: make-n-break on February 02, 2016, 11:09:55 pm: Seal em up good guys!! I brought my pride and joy red oak board bow "Saturn" with the patterned burlap backing to Mojam 2015 to let my friend shoot. Lebhuntfish, sleek and a few of the other fellas know which one I'm talking about. It was about 100 degrees and pouring rain the whole weekend. I had a primitive grease and beeswax finish, and the thing soaked up so much moisture that it went from 45# to 25# by the second day. A real bummer! I'll be going with a modern finish this year for sure.
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: sleek on February 02, 2016, 11:33:38 pm: Quote from: make-n-break on February 02, 2016, 11:09:55 pm
Seal em up good guys!! I brought my pride and joy red oak board bow "Saturn" with the patterned burlap backing to Mojam 2015 to let my friend shoot. Lebhuntfish, sleek and a few of the other fellas know which one I'm talking about. It was about 100 degrees and pouring rain the whole weekend. I had a primitive grease and beeswax finish, and the thing soaked up so much moisture that it went from 45# to 25# by the second day. A real bummer! I'll be going with a modern finish this year for sure.

Did that bow ever recover?
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: DavidV on February 03, 2016, 10:02:48 am: I probably won't heat treat this one Pat, haven't had good luck with heat and red oak in the past :/
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: lebhuntfish on February 03, 2016, 10:23:40 am: Cool, I'm just wondering. Figured I would act like a noob with the red oak.
Patrick
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: sleek on February 03, 2016, 10:49:32 am: The 80 pound one i made years ago was heat treated but only mildly.
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: make-n-break on February 03, 2016, 11:48:03 am: Sleek, it recovered only slightly to about 30#. It didn't take any more set either so I'm scratching my head as to why the damage was so permanent.

I prefer mild heat treating Red Oak too. Keeps the set down and makes 'em feel snappier to me.
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: DavidV on February 03, 2016, 01:15:36 pm: I might go for it then if you guys say it works.
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: tattoo dave on February 03, 2016, 09:41:45 pm: Oh man, one of my favorites I've made was a 62" bendy handle red oak bow with curves steamed into the tips. The only problem I ever had with that bow was when it burnt up in the house fire. Now you all got me wanting to make another ;). I won't make it to mojam, but I might play along anyway and build one if I can find the time.

Tattoo Dave
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Knoll on February 03, 2016, 10:12:10 pm: Quote from: tattoo dave on February 03, 2016, 09:41:45 pm
I won't make it to mojam, but I might play along anyway and build one if I can find the time.
Tattoo Dave

Great! We'll find someone to shoot it!!!
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Knoll on February 04, 2016, 02:52:53 pm: It would be great to see some relatively new bowyers get in on this lil challenge. Heck, it's just for fun!
In that vein, thought may be useful to point at a couple board bow build alongs that could get ya on road to success.

Here's one authored by Bubby. He's building this board bow from maple, not red oak. But principles are same, though may wanna add couple inches to length if going for 50#. Dimensions in Bub's post are fine for 40-45# red oak board.
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,35312.0.html

And here's another that was helpful for me. http://tradgang.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=125;t=002064;p=0
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: JonW on February 04, 2016, 05:31:53 pm: I am totally striking out on finding a decent board at the box stores. I can though mill some Osage boards. Did I mention that my RO kinda looks like Osage?
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Knoll on February 04, 2016, 05:43:55 pm: whine whine whine
>:D
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Onebowonder on February 04, 2016, 05:57:27 pm: Quote from: JonW on February 04, 2016, 05:31:53 pm
I am totally striking out on finding a decent board at the box stores. I can though mill some Osage boards. Did I mention that my RO kinda looks like Osage?

Send me an address JonW. I'll send you some AUTHENTIC Red Oak to work with so you can enjoy the full experience. >:D >:D >:D

OneBow
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Patches on February 06, 2016, 11:42:28 am: Got 2 red oak bows already started that need finishing and 4 more boards to make new ones if I screw up the first ones. Looking forward to this and what everybody comes up with.

Neal
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: lebhuntfish on February 06, 2016, 01:51:17 pm: Hey Neil! Good to see you online buddy! I'll see if I am bringing firewood or a bow to mojam. But I'll have some red oak there one way or the other.
Patrick
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: lebhuntfish on February 16, 2016, 12:53:51 am: I done a little work on my red oak this afternoon. Got it laied out, cut out and thickness tapered. I glued on a spalted blackjack oak riser to, figured since it was in the red oak family it would be kosher! Going to put blackjack overlays on to.

Patrick

(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w668/lebhuntfish1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/20160215_171611_zpsgusy9ggx.jpg) (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/lebhuntfish1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/20160215_171611_zpsgusy9ggx.jpg.html)
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Onebowonder on February 16, 2016, 10:10:54 am: That spalted BlackJack should be very pretty on your RO bow Patrick. It should finish up just lovely under some TruOil!

OneBow
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: lebhuntfish on February 16, 2016, 10:13:33 am: Thanks Eric, I'm just hoping it makes it that far. But your right, that blackjack does look good under some Tru oil!

Patrick
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: J05H on February 19, 2016, 07:17:24 am: Is it too late to get in on this? I just spent about a week and a half recovering from an appendectomy and I'm itchin' for somethin' to do. Don't think I'm quite up to using a draw knife yet, so my trade bow is on hold, but I can do a board bow.
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: lebhuntfish on February 19, 2016, 07:23:49 am: I say go for it Josh! I'm glad you're feeling better buddy!

Patrick
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Knoll on February 19, 2016, 09:59:09 am: appendectomy! Hope ya heal quickly. Will be great to see your red oak project.
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: sleek on February 19, 2016, 10:02:22 am: Dude, it took me months to recover from mine. Sorry you had to go through that and glad your feeling better!
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: J05H on February 19, 2016, 10:31:57 am: Thanks guys. The surgery wasn't as bad as I was expecting. I'm to the point that I feel pretty much normal until I turn or stretch just right. Then I get a not so friendly reminder to take it easy.

Anyway, I'm gonna go searching for a board real soon. I'm not gonna get to creative on this one. Just a simple flatbow, something I've had previous success with. Is there any kind of target weight for this contest, or is just whatever I want to shoot? Also, for curiosity's sake, what about hickory backed red oak? The first page does say any backing except fg, but I kind of feel like hickory is pushing it a bit.
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Knoll on February 19, 2016, 10:37:10 am: You choose backing (except fg) and you choose draw weight.

Besides doing this for the fun of it, various approaches to building RO board bows may be useful to others. So pictures of everyone's build materials/process would be REALLY cool!
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: lebhuntfish on February 19, 2016, 10:37:52 am: Yeah take it easy buddy.

If it had hickory on the back then it wouldn't be a red oak bow! >:D

Patrick
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Knoll on February 19, 2016, 10:41:01 am: You choose backing (except fg) and you choose draw weight. :)
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: J05H on February 19, 2016, 10:45:27 am: Quote from: lebhuntfish on February 19, 2016, 10:37:52 am
If it had hickory on the back then it wouldn't be a red oak bow! >:D

Patrick

Hey! The rules are the rules! >:D ;D Seriously though, I was thinking the same thing. I don't have the glue for a laminate anyway. I was just curious. I will almost certainly stick with a self bow.
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Onebowonder on February 19, 2016, 12:16:22 pm: You should ask your Hickory backing guy if he has some straight grained quartersawn RO. His prices were AWESOME!!! I still can hardly believe that deal you got!!!

OneBow
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: lebhuntfish on February 19, 2016, 12:35:41 pm: Quote from: Onebowonder on February 19, 2016, 12:16:22 pm
You should ask your Hickory backing guy if he has some straight grained quartersawn RO. His prices were AWESOME!!! I still can hardly believe that deal you got!!!

OneBow

No kidding! And see if you can get some more of that hickory too!

Patrick
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: J05H on February 19, 2016, 02:03:41 pm: I definitely plan to get back in there one of these days, but it's kind of tough to catch him. I think he only opens his shop a couple of days a week. When I do head back, I'll let you guys know.
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: J05H on February 19, 2016, 06:19:04 pm: Looky what I found. ;D

(http://i.imgur.com/EMb5SOT.jpg)
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: ajooter on February 19, 2016, 06:23:52 pm: What's the side of that board look like?
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: J05H on February 19, 2016, 06:28:16 pm: Straight growth ring lines there too. I took some pics and you can kinda see the detail on my phone, but for some reason they're too washed out to see anything on my pc screen. That's why I didn't upload them.
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Knoll on February 19, 2016, 06:29:13 pm: Quote from: J05H on February 19, 2016, 06:19:04 pm
Looky what I found. ;D

Straight face grain and near qtr sawn. Bud, looks like ya did GOOD!
Don't screw it up!! >:D
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: J05H on February 19, 2016, 06:40:38 pm: Quote from: Knoll on February 19, 2016, 06:29:13 pm
Straight face grain and near qtr sawn. Bud, looks like ya did GOOD!
Don't screw it up!! >:D

Thanks for the vote of confidence!! >:( ;) ;D
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: DC on February 19, 2016, 06:49:15 pm: I've never made a board bow. On that piece would you want to run the bow from the top left to the bottom right?
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: J05H on February 19, 2016, 07:09:41 pm: If you can, if you have the width, yes. The amount of run-off on the face of this one falls within what I would consider acceptable, but there's no reason not to give yourself the best possible chance. I have plenty of width here because its 3.5" wide so I will be laying it out like you said to get as little run-out as possible.
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: lebhuntfish on February 19, 2016, 07:25:14 pm: Thats a nice one right there Josh!

Patrick
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: lebhuntfish on March 03, 2016, 09:32:44 pm: Ok guy's, here it is. I know I'm going to catch a little heck for backing this bow with a hickory strip that Josh so graciously gave me. But I decided I needed a bow and not more kindling. I have broken 5 pieces of red oak up to this point. Number 6 seams to have came out pretty good so far. I finished up the tiller at Erics place last weekend and shot it a few times. Thanks Eric for taking all the pictures.
It is 47#@27" and has a fairly surprising cast. I have put about 200 arrows through it this week. It has taken right at 2" of set. I need to work on the tips and get the handle finished out. Then get all the sanding done and some finish on it. I'll shoot another 100 or so arrows through it as I get the arrow pass and handle finished up. Here is a few pictures.

Patrick

First brace, not bad huh?
(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w668/lebhuntfish1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/20160227_162535_zpshkbfljwp.jpg) (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/lebhuntfish1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/20160227_162535_zpshkbfljwp.jpg.html)

Tillering, needs a little work yet...
(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w668/lebhuntfish1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/IMG_0862_zps9j3cel39.jpg) (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/lebhuntfish1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/IMG_0862_zps9j3cel39.jpg.html)

Full draw, I've done some minor tweaking since this photo.
(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w668/lebhuntfish1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/IMG_0867_zpsftsgjhhb.jpg) (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/lebhuntfish1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/IMG_0867_zpsftsgjhhb.jpg.html)

Follow through!
(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w668/lebhuntfish1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/IMG_0868_zpsm10xs89x.jpg) (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/lebhuntfish1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/IMG_0868_zpsm10xs89x.jpg.html)

(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w668/lebhuntfish1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/IMG_0873_zpsxx54zugy.jpg) (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/lebhuntfish1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-03/IMG_0873_zpsxx54zugy.jpg.html)

Results from first set of arrows. Believe it or not the very first shot was the bullseye! Went all the way through the target and hit the plywood back stop.
(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w668/lebhuntfish1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/20160228_164940_zpsihsvlnk0.jpg) (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/lebhuntfish1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/20160228_164940_zpsihsvlnk0.jpg.html)

More shooting at my place.
(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w668/lebhuntfish1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/20160229_163337_zpsftcp3yko.jpg) (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/lebhuntfish1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/20160229_163337_zpsftcp3yko.jpg.html)

Unbraced immediately after shooting for about 45 min. I'm at exactly 1/8th in positive tiller.
(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w668/lebhuntfish1/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/20160229_163633_zps2poraw76.jpg) (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/lebhuntfish1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2016-02/20160229_163633_zps2poraw76.jpg.html)
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Knoll on March 03, 2016, 10:47:31 pm: Hickory backed red oak, huh? Sweeeet!
Full draw pic looks good. That'll likely be stiff competition at the pig shoot.
Hope it keeps on keepin' on, cause I know you'll make it into a looker too.
Congrats, Pat!
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: make-n-break on March 03, 2016, 10:48:00 pm: Been looking for a good RO since this thread came up. No such luck. Did stumble across a lovely hickory that followed me home though. How bout a hickory board bow with red oak overlays?? ;D

Nice bow Pat!
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: J05H on March 03, 2016, 10:48:24 pm: Looks pretty good to me buddy. To bad you had to cheat. ::) >:D ;)
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: lebhuntfish on March 03, 2016, 10:55:47 pm: Thanks guy's! Sorry about that Josh. I just couldn't help myself.

Break, there's a lot of red oak out there, but I personally I've not seen one I would make a bow out of without a backing. Take that with a grain of salt I have broken 5 you know.

Patrick
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Knoll on March 03, 2016, 11:31:06 pm: Quote from: make-n-break on March 03, 2016, 10:48:00 pm
How bout a hickory board bow with red oak overlays?? ;D

tsk tsk!
The search for proper candidate board is like finding a fine woman ... lots of the fun is in the search! :-X
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: sleek on March 03, 2016, 11:59:45 pm: Only the boards dont get mad when you put themback on the shelf and reach for another rack....
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Knoll on March 28, 2016, 06:14:35 pm: Finally got started on mine.

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3521_1.jpg)
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: PaulN/KS on March 28, 2016, 08:27:10 pm: Wow!
Never saw a carpeted marble work bench before. Nice..!
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Knoll on March 28, 2016, 10:44:48 pm: Quote from: PaulN/KS on March 28, 2016, 08:27:10 pm
Wow!
Never saw a carpeted marble work bench before. Nice..!
The Wife's outta town. :-X
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: Knoll on April 25, 2016, 03:39:14 pm: Finally got started on my red oak board. 64" with obj of 40# @ 25". About 2" wide tapering slightly 1/3 way out, then bit more second 1/3, and then tapering to 1/2" tip.

Now have at 3" brace and 17" draw and about 42#.
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3571.jpg)

Braced. Top limb is to the left.
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3572.jpg)

Immediately after unbracing.
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3573.jpg)

Profile.
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3575.jpg)

Bit of set going on. Recommendations re tillering approach going forward is invited!
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: JonW on April 25, 2016, 05:32:15 pm: Set looks even in both limbs. Tiller on. Maybe if you cut in a shelf you wouldn't need the glove >:D
Title: Re: MoJam 2016 - red oak BOARD bow challenge!
Post by: PaulN/KS on April 25, 2016, 05:39:46 pm: Looks pretty good Mike.
And shelves are for dishes... ;)
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Post by: Knoll on April 25, 2016, 05:43:07 pm: Was workin' in the garden immediately before The Wife took pic.
That's my story . . . . .
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Post by: Dvshunter on April 25, 2016, 09:08:04 pm: I've got a few boards and almost have my other projects wrapped up so what the hell, red oak here I come.
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Post by: lebhuntfish on April 25, 2016, 10:07:37 pm: Looks pretty good Mike!
I'm kinda thinking though that the bottom limb seams to be bending more in the fade than the rest of the limb. I like the upper limb though!

Dang Dave, I guess red oak will be king at mojam this year!

Patrick
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Post by: tattoo dave on April 25, 2016, 10:16:42 pm: What are those big blocky things you guys keep glueing onto the handles?? ;) just kiddin, lookin good fellas.

Now I gotta make one. I haven't made a red oak bow in a few years. I might just make one for turkey hunting, going to try and feather back it.

Tattoo Dave
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Post by: Knoll on April 25, 2016, 11:26:59 pm: Quote from: Dvshunter on April 25, 2016, 09:08:04 pm
. . . what the hell, red oak here I come.
And the earth ... shook ... under my feet.
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Post by: Onebowonder on April 27, 2016, 07:39:06 pm: I guess I had better get my butt in gear and get my red oak board boat built before July…

OneBow
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Post by: n2huntn on April 27, 2016, 08:13:04 pm: Liking this thread
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Post by: Knoll on May 12, 2016, 05:39:33 pm: Here's mine at full draw, but still have couple lbs to shave off. Backed with a strip of linen.

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3622.jpg)
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Post by: lebhuntfish on May 12, 2016, 06:28:26 pm: Looks pretty good right now Mike, we will see how many make it to mojam!

Patrick
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Post by: Knoll on June 09, 2016, 06:36:42 pm: My bow is almost complete. Handle wrap, arrow pass, and new string still need to be completed.

Here it is as of today.
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3677.jpg)
Backed it wth linen. So decided a paint job was in order.
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3679.jpg)

These are the most narrow tips I've done.
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3681.jpg)
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3680.jpg)

Had to include the handle for a special CA feller . . . . . . ;D
(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3687.jpg)

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3683.jpg)

(http://i884.photobucket.com/albums/ac48/knolltop314/100_3685.jpg)
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Post by: bubby on June 09, 2016, 07:06:47 pm: came out nice Mike, even the sasquatch sized grip 😈😈😈
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Post by: JonW on June 09, 2016, 07:15:59 pm: DAAAANNNNNG!
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Post by: Stixnstones on June 09, 2016, 07:20:53 pm: sweet stik ya got there Mike.
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Post by: lebhuntfish on June 09, 2016, 10:40:00 pm: Looks great Mike! Sure is pretty for shelving material!

Patrick
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Post by: lebhuntfish on June 21, 2016, 07:16:20 pm: Ok guy's let's see those red oak bows! Mojam is only just about 2.5 weeks away!

Patrick
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Post by: bjrogg on June 21, 2016, 08:16:59 pm: That's a really nice looking bow there Knoll, I really like the handle and the paint nice bend too.
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Post by: Knoll on June 21, 2016, 09:25:37 pm: Thanks guys! Finally got leather wrap stitched on handle and finished arrow pass details.
Am finally shooting it ok. Nock point was too low and was holding it too tightly. Moved nock point up 1/8" and using 3-finger grip. Shot 246 at 3D 30-target last Sunday. That's as good as this ole feller is gonna shoot!
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Post by: Aaron H on June 22, 2016, 06:40:14 am: Wow Mike, that looks great! Well done
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Post by: JonW on June 22, 2016, 09:16:27 am: I say we have an ugliest bow catagory. I've got it hands down.
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Post by: Knoll on June 22, 2016, 09:27:20 am: What ya can do with it is what counts. But am sooooo looking forward to what you guys came up with.
Looking forward to the Running Pig shooting . . . should be quite the hoot!!
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Post by: lebhuntfish on June 22, 2016, 06:22:23 pm: Me to Mike, I've actually never shot at the ole running pig!

Patrick
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Post by: Knoll on June 23, 2016, 11:02:23 pm: Heh, guys, it would be useful to have idea how many of these red oak gems will be showing themselves at MoJam.
Please give me a "YES!" if one of these shooters will be accompanying you!
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Post by: Onebowonder on June 23, 2016, 11:18:11 pm: I'm still hoping to have one done by Friday afternoon of MOJAM, ...though it will likely not be all pretty like yours is!

OneBow
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Post by: mikekeswick on June 24, 2016, 03:23:44 am: Sounds like you guys are having plenty of fun. I found that to keep the set down on red oak the back can be trapped to like 60% of the staves full width. It's way strong in tension. When you do this you can keep the set to below an inch and performance will be right up there. When I started making bows there was a reclamation yard nearby (closed down now :( ) that had more red oak boards than you could shake a stick at! RO board bows can be very nice bows.
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Post by: Knoll on June 24, 2016, 05:49:15 am: There's one more ro board in the garage. When I get to it, definitely gonna trap its back.
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Post by: lebhuntfish on June 24, 2016, 07:13:27 am: Thanks Keswick, some good RO info there.

Knoll, I have a bunch of RO in the garage. Wait a minute, I forgot, those are for that oak curio cabinet I'm building. The wife said that if I use any more of her boards for bows she was kicking my but! >:D >:D >:D

Patrick
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Post by: JonW on June 24, 2016, 10:07:22 am: I'm gunnin' for ya Mr. Hill!
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Post by: Knoll on June 24, 2016, 10:39:47 am: Quote from: JonW on June 24, 2016, 10:07:22 am
I'm gunnin' for ya Mr. Hill!

I can't come close to matching THAT! Good shootin', Mr Wampler . . . or was it Karena that shot such a great group?
:P
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Post by: JonW on June 24, 2016, 10:41:55 am: A gentleman never tells...
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Post by: Onebowonder on June 24, 2016, 11:12:05 am: That pig runs a straight line, ...right? He doesn't do a zig zagging line down and across the ridge like a real tuskers do I hope! :o Not that I have any real expectation beyond a total FLUKE shot of hitting him in any case. :-\

OneBow
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Post by: bubby on June 24, 2016, 11:25:44 am: I could hit that pig no problem, I'd just aim at the bridge right Mike😋
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Post by: Knoll on June 24, 2016, 02:26:23 pm: Hitting that pig is easy. Hitting it in the "kill" area is a different matter.
Last year Dave's 11-yr-old son, Vinny, participated for 1st time. That lil stinker hit pig several times. I was shocked . . . and humbled. Then he went over to the aerial shoot and showed 'em how to do that!
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Post by: Knoll on July 04, 2016, 12:07:06 pm: Am bringing couple prizes for the challenge.
If anyone else would like to contribute to the prize kitty . . . . . would be welcomed!

See ya in a few!!!
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Post by: JonW on July 04, 2016, 12:16:31 pm: I will bring a little something...
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Post by: Onebowonder on July 06, 2016, 05:55:24 pm: Grrrr.... Red oak! -OneBow :-[ :'( :embarassed: ??? :( >:( :( >:( :( :( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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Post by: Knoll on July 06, 2016, 06:47:58 pm: Quote from: Onebowonder on July 06, 2016, 05:55:24 pm
Grrrr.... Red oak! -OneBow :-[ :'( :embarassed: ??? :( >:( :( >:( :( :( >:( >:( >:( >:(

a challenge, huh? ;)
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Post by: DC on July 06, 2016, 07:08:58 pm: Someday someone will write a novel with emoticons. You hit short story status ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: bubby on July 06, 2016, 07:20:04 pm: Quote from: Onebowonder on July 06, 2016, 05:55:24 pm
Grrrr.... Red oak! -OneBow :-[ :'( :embarassed: ??? :( >:( :( >:( :( :( >:( >:( >:( >:(

I think someone has the red oak blues😈😈😈😈😈😈
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Post by: Onebowonder on July 07, 2016, 10:02:46 am: Was just fine, starting to look promising, and then a line of Chrysals just showed up all of a sudden right at the top fade next to a TINY little pin knot that wasn't as big as a gnat's eyeball! -OneBow

BTW - In case anyone ever asks you, a three pound maul will make fibers and shards of kindling out of an Oak 1X2 in about twenty to twenty-five blows. >:(
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Post by: loon on July 12, 2016, 05:22:48 pm: I was hoping to make a 35# red oak board bow with bubby's tutorial dimensions as a total newb.. not going to MoJam though
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Post by: bubby on July 12, 2016, 05:59:57 pm: Quote from: loon on July 12, 2016, 05:22:48 pm
I was hoping to make a 35# red oak board bow with bubby's tutorial dimensions as a total newb.. not going to MoJam though

Well whats stopping you😋
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Post by: Knoll on July 18, 2016, 01:39:52 pm: Three of us had shootin' bows. Dave almost made it to the line, but couldn't quite get done in time.
Lebhuntfish, JonW, and I each fired about dozen arrows at the streaking porker. And all scored hits. His ham section was mostly riddled. :o

That was a bit of fun. We forgot to take pictures!!
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Post by: JonW on July 18, 2016, 06:23:39 pm: I think everyone else was scared. Especially Dave. I was disappointed mine didn't blow!
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Post by: lebhuntfish on July 19, 2016, 09:19:31 am: It was fun to shoot with you guy's. Mine shot like crap. I think it drawer some moisture on that hickory backing. Mine will probably blow. It had another fret after the shoot.

Patrick