Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: stuckinthemud on January 16, 2016, 09:12:55 am
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OK, so I have always used side quiver, and the only back quiver I ever used was difficult to fill, difficult to draw from, rattled when I walked and the arrows fell out every time I bent over.........
My boy wants me to make him a back quiver, so how do I go about it? Photos and ideas, build alongs and links please. I am pretty sure my experience with a back quiver comes from a really bad design and they probably can be pretty sweet if they are done right - or maybe not - if they just don't work then I don't mind you pointing that out too so I don't waste my time when a side quiver really is what I should be making - again, photos, etc would be really good so I could show him a 'cool' alternative.
Thanks in advance
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Use a softer leather so the back quiver molds to his back. It will keep pressure on the arrows so they don't rattle or fall out. I ever had luck drawing from a back quiver so I can't help with that.
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I've used multiple designs of back and shoulder quivers over the years and I've "Never" found a back quiver design that was convenient or comfortable for me to use. Shoulder quivers like the plains style and stalker/raptor design both purchased or home made seem to better suit my needs.
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I just received a back quiver in the x-mas trade that I like quite a bit. The top can be closed to keep the arrows in place and has a side hole cut low on the right side for arrow extraction. It's made from hair on deer hide which helps to muffle any rattling from the arrows.
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i just made one with a bow case. works both ways. Tony
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Back quivers are an abomination ! Noisy/Tough on broadheads/flags game drawing an arrow/almost impossible to sneak through brushy thick cover without snagging an arrow on every twig. The only time I wear one is 3-D ranges for the "Traditional" look. Hunting I use either a side or Lakota style, and stump shooting a Pocket Quiver gets the nod. My .02 - Bob.
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horse archer/asian side quiver or just belt, korean sash or pockets for me. I only got one back quiver on this style for my dad: (https://img1.etsystatic.com/051/0/8816736/il_570xN.670470029_c1ac.jpg)
It's fine to use but a pain to put arrows into, in my experience. So not really worth it for long target practice sessions
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I use a back quiver in my yard and a plains quiver in the woods.
Jawge
http://traditionalarchery101.com/quivers.html
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loon, I use a similar style quiver but wear it different. I believe it was meant to be worn over the left shoulder with the fletching forward on the right side. Much easier to withdraw and insert arrows when worn the other way. One of my favorite styles of side/ shoulder quiver.
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I've watched many, many videos of people shooting with back quivers. The only one I can remember that could get the arrows out smoothly was Lars Anderson. All the rest seem to wave their arm around their head searching for the arrow. There are probably many reasons for this but it really doesn't make them look desirable. I haven't used a quiver at all because I don't hunt and we use traffic cones at the range. One of the girls at the range stuffs her arrows in her tall boots. That seems to work.
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I've watched many, many videos of people shooting with back quivers. The only one I can remember that could get the arrows out smoothly was Lars Anderson. All the rest seem to wave their arm around their head searching for the arrow. There are probably many reasons for this but it really doesn't make them look desirable. I haven't used a quiver at all because I don't hunt and we use traffic cones at the range. One of the girls at the range stuffs her arrows in her tall boots. That seems to work.
Even this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1o9RGnujlkI
I still prefer a side quiver
Lars 's back quiver was just bad, too stiff and no padding so of course the arrows are going to bounce around and fall
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Oh yeah, I forgot that one :-[
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Back quivers are an abomination ! Noisy/Tough on broadheads/flags game drawing an arrow/almost impossible to sneak through brushy thick cover without snagging an arrow on every twig. The only time I wear one is 3-D ranges for the "Traditional" look. Hunting I use either a side or Lakota style, and stump shooting a Pocket Quiver gets the nod. My .02 - Bob.
Couldn't agree more, for my style of bow hunting that is. I use a mini cat quiver for hunting. It hangs off my side while I walk and hangs in my tree when I get there. I use back quivers for 3d shoots and stump shooting/bunny hunting when noise isn't a factor.
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I use a side and back quiver both from time to time, I will say there is a learning curve to using a back quiver in the woods, I put some type of fur around the top for noise and use my bow string [bow in hand push up the bottom of the quiver] to kick the quiver up when I want to get an arrow out. I tuck it under my arm when I am going through thick cover, you just have to get use to it. I also take it off if in a blind or tree and hang it while hunting. I really prefer a Asbell style quiver while hunting but always hang it also when I get where I seating. Don't do much stalking unless it's a stump or squirrel. ;)
Pappy
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Stump stalking, I think i could do that! ;) ;)
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Stuckinthemud.......A side or cat quiver suits me best too.Like most of the comments.Can shoot with and have both the back or side but prefer the side for 3D,stump shooting or hunting.You'll have to decide that for yourself.I where the side one like this.
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad41/Beadman1/DSCN0991_zpsftjrl6yp.jpg) (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/Beadman1/media/DSCN0991_zpsftjrl6yp.jpg.html)
Here's a fisher coon cat quiver that works nice too.I took a dogwood and split it.Ripped the coon up the belly to match the split.Lined it wit brain tan and sewed it together.Works slick.
(http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad41/Beadman1/DSCN1101_zpsasy0spwl.jpg) (http://s920.photobucket.com/user/Beadman1/media/DSCN1101_zpsasy0spwl.jpg.html)
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Another reason that I always used a side quiver Hunting, is that it facilitates wearing a pack. Got to where even on short Hunts, I wore a Day Pack - handy for a thermous/rain poncho/fire kit and firstaid kit and a place to shed clothing layer while walking. Bob
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I've gotten to liking side quivers. The one I've got is a brain tanned raccoon skin that I initially put two loops on to hold the arrows sideways across the lower back. But that didn't work with it riding too low and jostling with every step. But it works well for me hung off just one loop with the arrows facing forward. The softness of the leather pinches the arrows and with a big ball of wood scrapings in the bottom keeping the tips for moving making it very quiet when moving. And when moving quick I can rech down and grab the arrows holding them still so they make no noise and my hand it already on the arrows ready to pull them out. And I have colored banding at the nock so I know what head is on the arrow when I pull it out. There are a few things that I need to change about it that don't work too well. Don't let the tail dangle down, it catches everything. Make the loops so they can be opened and closed, it's a pain taking your belt off every time you want to remove your quiver or have a seperate belt for just the quiver. And add a pouch for the extras you like to carry.
Dakota kid, you'll have to let me know how you like the quiver after you've used it a while. It's the first time I've tried making a quiver in that style and I didn't have much time to play with it between completion date and shipping date. So I wasn't sure of exactly where everything needed to be to be in the proper comfort area. And feel free to modify it as you see fit to make it work better. I felt like it would be a good way to keep your fletchings dry on a rainy day and you don't have to worry about arrows falling out.
Kyle
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I usually use a side quiver. Even with a bow quiver I take it off when I get to my spot. I plan on building a side quiver before season that I've had in my head for awhile.
(http://i1225.photobucket.com/albums/ee391/rjwalton8/P1000450.jpg) (http://s1225.photobucket.com/user/rjwalton8/media/P1000450.jpg.html)
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I have not hunted yet but have no inclination to build a back quiver. Mine is a side quiver. A lot of club Archers use hip quivers. Like to build a modified hip quiver so the arrow sits in at least 2/3 of the way.
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After years of being fed up with quivers I've come to the solution of carrying my arrows in the bow hand. Quiver gets left behind when I'm hunting. Never needed more than four arrows in my life. Of course I shoot a D-bow so your results may be different.
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Bow is a bow.I can see your point about no quiver though while hunting,but while along with friends 3D shooting it's nice to carry a few more arrows.Shooting 3 arrows correctly is always better than shooting 12 incorrectly and in a hurry....lol.
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Nothing against handle bows (except I'm not any good at making them). Just meant that the cross section of the handle of a d-bow is smaller, and let's me carry the arrows easier. Something I wouldn't be able to do all day with something like an old Bear Kodiak. At the 3D range I carry around my quiver and flop it on the ground to shoot.
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Yep good point.Each to his or her own I say.
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I've tried your standard tube type hip quiver as well as back quiver and I'm not thrilled with either, I'm thinking of trying out a manchu style quiver next...
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I've tried your standard tube type hip quiver as well as back quiver and I'm not thrilled with either, I'm thinking of trying out a manchu style quiver next...
They're so tiny, for such huge arrows!
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They're so tiny, for such huge arrows!
That's what she said....