Primitive Archer

Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: bushboy on December 19, 2015, 02:55:48 pm

Title: design question?
Post by: bushboy on December 19, 2015, 02:55:48 pm
I'm not sure what to call this design.it's 1-1/8" at the handle,straight taper to 1-5/8"@ mids down to skinny tips.was wondering if. This design has any historical significance? Kinda like a sudbury/mollegebet I think.i'm not taking credit for this design because i'm sure it has all be done before.thoughts,thx's Rob.
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Post by: bushboy on December 19, 2015, 03:02:20 pm
Here a drawn shot.there are a couple of large knots on the bottom limb that makes the tiller look a little wonky.
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Post by: JonW on December 19, 2015, 03:53:28 pm
Not sure what to call it myself but I like the front profile. Can we see an unbraced shot? Looks a little flat where the limbs are widest but that's just being picky.
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Post by: JW_Halverson on December 19, 2015, 03:55:16 pm
I believe it is called a shooter.
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Post by: half eye on December 19, 2015, 04:13:22 pm
Sort of reminds me of a Chippewa bow from the Dr. Grayson Collection....while not exactly the same it does have the same type of attributes.....of course they call me half eye for a reason ::)
rich
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Post by: bushboy on December 19, 2015, 04:18:03 pm
Unbraced.
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Post by: ajooter on December 19, 2015, 05:01:14 pm
Yeah....really wonky....wish all my bows were so "wonky" looking haha.  What kind of wood is that bushy?
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Post by: Selfbowman on December 19, 2015, 05:04:00 pm
Nice bow . What is the draw weight?   Arvin
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Post by: Selfbowman on December 19, 2015, 05:04:33 pm
Nice bow . What is the draw weight?   Arvin
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Post by: George Tsoukalas on December 19, 2015, 05:29:17 pm
I call it an excellent tiller and well done! Jawge
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Post by: bushboy on December 20, 2015, 02:25:18 am
Yes,thanks!the wood is white/american elm.judging by the strain look on my face I would guess 60ish.i thought about this design long and hard,kinda a stiff handle D in the middle going out to a flat bow at the mids to molly levers that straighten at full draw.this style takes very little set because the wide Midlimbs do the lions share of work!
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Post by: bushboy on December 20, 2015, 02:47:24 am
I would like to add the 1/8th thickness to width ratio has to be followed closely with this design.
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Post by: BowEd on December 20, 2015, 01:07:23 pm
That settled into a nice looking bow.Looks like you toasted her a bit too.How much reflex did you start with?
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Post by: BowEd on December 20, 2015, 01:16:36 pm
It's like a willow leaf like top profile.
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Post by: Springbuck on December 20, 2015, 04:24:03 pm
  If I was describing it, I'd say like a Sudbury with a shorter stiff handle and longer lighter tips.

  I have done something SORT of similar, but never really tapered purposely wider from handle to midlimb.  More like a long skinny paddle bow, and the tips werent as narrow, like a willowleaf limb.
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Post by: bushboy on December 21, 2015, 05:51:49 am
The stave started out with about 2" of deflex.i reflexed so the tips where around 4" infront of the back.the small recurve pulled out a little and rest 2" in front of the back
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Post by: Hrothgar on December 21, 2015, 07:25:31 am
Tiller and design look good, think I would call it a 'shooter' also.
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Post by: bushboy on December 21, 2015, 08:09:36 am
I think I like willowleaf!thank's
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Post by: BowEd on December 22, 2015, 08:24:15 am
Sudbury could describe it too I guess....Regardless like said it's a shooter.If the length is under 64" that's a nice job on a good piece of wood.After it's heat treating it took about normal set losing half.I've got growing here what I think is red elm but could be american elm too.The wood here has a light brown heartwood.I thought american elm did'nt have that.The elm here I'm not that impressed with.It was quite a while ago but I gave a holmgaard design that was 62" long about 7" heat treatment reflex and through tillering it kept 1".It did'nt have enough working limb on it and not wide enough.I tillered it to 28" pulling about 50#.It eventually broke so I don't have a picture of it.Not because of how it was tillered but I had strapped that wet elm into reflex and as it was drying in the process the sharp edge of a 2"by 4"s' edge put a dent on it's back.That's where it broke even though I wrapped it too.Anyway nice job on your bow.
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Post by: bushboy on December 23, 2015, 07:20:52 am
Yes thanks!the bow I 60-1/2" ntn,drawn to 26".the heart wood was dark brown and the sapwood had a yellow tinge to it.