Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: MXer on November 09, 2015, 12:34:10 pm
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This is my first post here. I've learned a lot just by reading all your threads. Just wanted to say keep up the good work! I'll try to post some pics of my build.
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My Dad gave me the cape off of his mule deer this year. I made a nice big piece of rawhide with it, and used that to back it.
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I got some of the "set" out of it by putting vegetable oil on the tillered side of the bow and heating it and then bending it backwards for a day. It still has a little set.
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I'm sure there are some problems from a "Good" bowyer's perspective, but I just taught myself along the way and have a better understanding of what I should do next time. It came in under weight from where I wanted it. I don't have a way to measure it. I should have made it longer as the draw length is only 22" and probably only 25-30 lbs. It does shoot well and it's definitely fun to shoot!
I plan to finish it with Tru-oil soon.
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One thing I found interesting was the fact that the stave had a slight curve to it, so I used that figuring it would just be reflexed, or bent the opposite way when unstrung. (I hope I'm using these terms correctly) The more wood I removed the more that went away. In fact, you can see in one of my pics that it actually ended up bending the other way that I wanted and twisting a little.
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I'm moving this to "BOWS" for more responses.
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You've done a great job...
But a couple of pointers for the next one :).
Avoid cutting sharp angles and avoid shaping the grip and arrow pass until the bow is near finished, it allows room to ajust the string line and how the the arrow sits on the bow.
Anywhere you cut into the bows width there needs to be extra thickness to cope with the concentration of stress and the weakness created.
Del
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Thanks for the feedback. The handle ended up bigger than I wanted because of 2 knots right there. My next one should be better!
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Looks like a great first bow, your well on your way!
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Good start man! Next time you find a piece of juniper like that let me know;) I'll gladly take it off your hands:) for a fair trade of course.
Check out some of the build along in the 'how-to' section there all different woods but they work for most bow woods out there.
Welcome to the bowyers club:)
-Bryce
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Nice work. Juniper was one of the first woods I worked with too and to this day makes my favorite bow with sinew.
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I got a bunch of sinew this year. My dad's deer, brother's deer, and a friends antelope. I'm using the rawhide now because I don't want to waste the sinew on a sub par bow. I need to get better. I'm also still a little unsure of how to use it. I'm guessing using hide glue with would be the best way.
I kind of want to try a hickory board bow next.
Hey Bryce, I have 2 more in the garage with wax on the ends because I couldn't get to it right away. It doesn't seem to be checking but I don't know yet until I get the bark stripped. I may have screwed up by cutting them and not gettin to it right away like this one.
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sinew backing a normal wood bow is not rocket science. Your hide glue can be too thick or too thin and it will still work. Any book or link on how to should work your first time
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what kind of draw weight and length are you getting? I was shooting for 40# @26-28 in. Ended up way shorter and underweight too!
I was curious to know what your dimensions are.
This one is 54" at the nocks and like I stated earlier around 25 lbs. @ 22in. There's plenty of staves out here in Idaho.
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I think That's great for your first bow- you'll make many more I'm sure! :)
I used short staves on my first few and kept coming in underweight. Then I made some 68" and over and got my first 40+# bows. I find it much easier to strong bows from long staves. I still keep making mistakes though! ::)
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Congratulations on your first bow! I also went too short on my first bow (for a beginner) and ended up under weight in trying to get it to decent tiller. Your bow looks like you are a very good woodworker, and I'm sure it was fascinating to shape a piece of raw timber into a bow. I'm sure this won't be your first! Great pictures, too. :)
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Congratulations on your first bow. It looks better than mine :laugh:
Also welcome to the addiction.
Dave
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MXer, I'd call that an outstanding first effort. You should be proud of your work.
8)
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I appreciate the feedback on the bow and kind words about it. ...and you're right... I'll build more. It's sort of sparked a passion and I can't wait to get started on another.
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Good looking first bow.
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Just a thought. If I shortened it what would happen? Would the draw weight increase at the same draw length? Would tiller remain the same? Just curious questions.
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That one turned out okay. Don't try to make it what you want. The wood has decided what to be. Put that in the rack and move on to the next one and see what happens. BTW build a rack you're gonna need it.
Piking or shortening will increase draw weight, but it has it's limitations. You can always come back after a few more bows and try it. I recommend starting fresh and learning to listen to the wood. Keep and eye on cutting those arrow shelves in. I broke a few nice pieces of wood before I gave up on cut outs.
Congrats, my first when snap, so did the next couple for that matter. Say good bye to friends, family, and free time. Let me know if you need the number for bowyer's anonymous.
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Nice bow. I hope my first wood bow turns nearly that well
Keep and eye on cutting those arrow shelves in. I broke a few nice pieces of wood before I gave up on cut outs.
This. As a very mediocre archer, arrow shelves are way overrated IMO, but I guess it is preference. However, as long as it doesn't break, you have a more center shot bow now.
If you shortened it, it'd be put under more stress... more chance of breakage. Just don't overstress it.
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Great first bow.Better than mine too.
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Very nice first effort. Better than my first bow.
Very nice clean piece of Juniper. How long was the wood seasoned? Green wood will give up reflex much more so than seasoned wood.
IN the shorter ow lengths you need the bow to bend through the handle and or have recurved tips to get the longer draw out of them. A longer bow is going to be much easier for you to hit your target weight.
Welcome to the addiction!