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Main Discussion Area => Horn Bows => Topic started by: stuckinthemud on November 07, 2015, 06:35:31 pm

Title: horn bow without horn?
Post by: stuckinthemud on November 07, 2015, 06:35:31 pm
Does anyone know of a thread for building a horn-bow style bow without using horn?  I think Pat may have posted a build-along once upon a time?? 
Title: Re: horn bow without horn?
Post by: mullet on November 07, 2015, 08:03:12 pm
I don't remember the issue of Primitive Archer it was in but I built one that broke and Chris Cade made a shooter with his. Though it wasn't a very good performing bow.
Title: Re: horn bow without horn?
Post by: AndrewS on November 08, 2015, 05:19:53 am
In the Laubin book there are pics of sinew backed osage bows in the style of hornbows. May be they haven't the long drawlength?
Title: Re: horn bow without horn?
Post by: bubby on November 08, 2015, 11:44:07 am
Your talking about the turk bow in laubins book, not really a horn bow look just a sinew backed osage painted to look like one
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Post by: Tc on November 08, 2015, 12:50:52 pm
http://www.hornbow.com/pa1098.html
I have made this style of bow, I was not happy with the performance though.....
Title: Re: horn bow without horn?
Post by: Pat B on November 08, 2015, 02:10:29 pm
James Parker built a sinew backed, wood core and tempered(SCORCHED!)bamboo belly Asiatic horn bow style bow. That little booger would spit an arrow(@45#-50#) like nobody's business. I saw James shoot through a chrono, with a thumb ring at well over 200fps with a lightish carbon arrow and over 190fps with a 500gr hunting arrow.
Title: Re: horn bow without horn?
Post by: loon on November 08, 2015, 04:30:32 pm
James Parker built a sinew backed, wood core and tempered(SCORCHED!)bamboo belly Asiatic horn bow style bow. That little booger would spit an arrow(@45#-50#) like nobody's business. I saw James shoot through a chrono, with a thumb ring at well over 200fps with a lightish carbon arrow and over 190fps with a 500gr hunting arrow.

I'd love to see any video or pictures of this bow
Title: Re: horn bow without horn?
Post by: mullet on November 08, 2015, 05:54:55 pm
Tc, that was the article I was talking about. To me , it shot like a dog, very sluggish.
Title: Re: horn bow without horn?
Post by: Pat B on November 08, 2015, 05:57:24 pm
He may have posted it here on PA. Do a search.
Title: Re: horn bow without horn?
Post by: bubby on November 08, 2015, 07:10:31 pm
Pat didn't James have a all boo bow get boy that was a sweet bow
Title: Re: horn bow without horn?
Post by: mullet on November 08, 2015, 08:51:38 pm
Bubby, yes he did. Also, I think Mecshlasher, Chris Cade won BOM with the one from the PA article about 10 years ago.
Title: Re: horn bow without horn?
Post by: stuckinthemud on November 09, 2015, 11:29:19 am
Found the thread in March 2009 BOM archive, no pictures though  :-[
Title: Re: horn bow without horn?
Post by: Urufu_Shinjiro on November 09, 2015, 01:24:58 pm
Found the thread in March 2009 BOM archive, no pictures though  :-[

"removed by admin", the bane of my bow-porn addiction, lol.
Title: Re: horn bow without horn?
Post by: AndrewS on November 09, 2015, 04:46:45 pm
@bubby
yeah, this is what stuckinthemud has asked for....a bow, looks like a hornbow and without horn....
Title: Re: horn bow without horn?
Post by: stuckinthemud on November 10, 2015, 08:11:18 am
Thanks Guys, lots to think about
Title: Re: horn bow without horn?
Post by: Badger on January 03, 2016, 02:09:53 pm
  I think the reason horn bows are horn bows and wood bows are wood bows is because they perform best if we design them t suit the materials they were mad from. I have never seen a wood bow built like a horn bow perform as well as a wood bow designed as a good wood bow. LOL>
Title: Re: horn bow without horn?
Post by: BowEd on January 04, 2016, 06:56:42 am
I don't know as much about bow making as I would like but but I gotta ask myself on a comparison between wood bows and horn bows where do the bows' limbs work.On a wooden bow you want it spread evenly throughout the limb most times.On a horn bow and I mean a turkish style one it works in a lot smaller area like about 6 to 8 inches close to the handle.To me the speed horn bows get is from that small working area.Very hard to get wood to do that.
Title: Re: horn bow without horn?
Post by: loon on January 04, 2016, 07:29:50 pm
Mollegabet bows look like Han dynasty horn bows, but without an angle at the lever transition or setback handle to me. Guess one could do a nice Han-like wood bow if it's sinew backed in the working limbs. The compression pine siberian/scandinavian bows look kind of like Manchu bows sometimes.