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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: simson on November 06, 2015, 02:54:21 pm

Title: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71) BUILDALONG
Post by: simson on November 06, 2015, 02:54:21 pm
If you are interested in the finished bow, go here:
http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php/topic,55786.0.html

Well, I always wanted a flat sinewed short osage with static tips. Finally found a suitable nice clean stave with no knots or other complications. The statics are steamed in and the whole stick got an gentle increasing reflex with the heat gun. Everything went without any problems, even string alignment was o. k.

Now for the sinew
the bow is prepared with oven cleaner spray, looks funny like something to eat:

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%201%20von%2014_zpsgmj9ccfi.jpg)

I let the cleaner work for about one hour, then rinse with fresh water. A lot of oily yellow stuff came out and the surface looks cool – somewhat like a giraffe

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%202%20von%2014_zpshd8hefxb.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%203%20von%2014_zpswyxazeax.jpg)

Next step is applying thinned glue in sevarl layers

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%204%20von%2014_zpsgidl2swg.jpg)

I let it dry out over night and prepared my sinew for the first layer. The bundles are soaked in water, thickness is like a pencil. The tissue spread  the water over the bundles so nothing can dry out. I leave that thing also over night.

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%205%20von%2014_zps9i6ydplt.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%206%20von%2014_zpsduslkaek.jpg)


Here is already the next day:
Here are the tools I use, silikon gloves, comb, plastic envelope opener, polished stone and the glue

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%207%20von%2014_zps9i1hnx8j.jpg)

No pics of the process of applying because of sticky gloves, but here is the result

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%208%20von%2014_zpsfzubn1ym.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%209%20von%2014_zpsfhi3v8n3.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2010%20von%2014_zpshbt50zuk.jpg)

Ah, forgot one tool. This is an old marker with a steel wire instead of the ???(word)
with this instrument it's easy to press out excess glue.

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2011%20von%2014_zpswwvo05nh.jpg)

From time to time I control the surface, just when the upper surface is not more sticky the bow can be wrapped. I like to use rubber textile for this. After some hours the whole thing is unwrapped and the wrapped again but in opposing direction. This prevents excessiv marks of the textile rubber.

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2012%20von%2014_zpstsbehk28.jpg)

Above is a pic showing the first unwrapping process. I repeat this about four or five times, leaving the wrapp on for some hours.
Here is a pic from the whole  bow wrapped and braced backwards. The backward string is also tightened every now and then

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2013%20von%2014_zpsgi8zh2st.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2014%20von%2014_zpsxt91cong.jpg)

Well, now for the hard time waiting two weeks for the second layer.
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: Pat B on November 06, 2015, 03:01:16 pm
She's gonna be sweet, Simon. I can tell already.   8)  Set her aside somewhere that you can't see her. That way you won't consider messing with her before her time.  ;)
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: BowEd on November 06, 2015, 03:56:43 pm
Thanks Simson.Great build-a-long.I'll enjoy watching the master at work here.
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: Badger on November 06, 2015, 04:35:12 pm
   You need to get involved with flight shooting simpson, all you need are some arrows if you don't allready have them.
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: lebhuntfish on November 06, 2015, 04:54:36 pm
Very nice! Thanks a bunch for sharing. It's always nice to see someone else's process. I'm always learning on pa!
Patrick
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: PlanB on November 06, 2015, 05:45:34 pm
Really appreciate these step by step build alongs!  :)
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: Carson (CMB) on November 06, 2015, 09:43:28 pm
That is going to be a power house! Looking forward to seeing how it finishes out.

One question, how do you use that envelope opener in your process?

Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: loon on November 07, 2015, 02:50:44 am
Looks absolutely beautiful! Thanks for sharing. It's exactly the kind of bow I yearn to one day make.

Looking forward to seeing how it'll turn out
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: Del the cat on November 07, 2015, 03:44:45 am
Yup, another one for my bucket list.
Great build along.
Del
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: simson on November 07, 2015, 06:52:08 am
She's gonna be sweet, Simon. I can tell already.   8)  Set her aside somewhere that you can't see her. That way you won't consider messing with her before her time.  ;)

Pat, thanks I will do so. At least for 2 weeks   :)

   You need to get involved with flight shooting simpson, all you need are some arrows if you don't allready have them.

Steve, I'm pretty unfamiliar with flight shooting. It's not a great thing here, only a few friends are interested in cloud shooting. I'm watching your (and Alan's) activities with interest and I'm still learning. But in future I will do more in flight shooting and bow and arrow making.

That is going to be a power house! Looking forward to seeing how it finishes out.

One question, how do you use that envelope opener in your process?



Carson, sorry for my neglect.
The bundles are soaked in glue, combed out on the stone, lifted with the opener and applied on the limb. Then pressed down with the opener until the surface is smooth. After some time when the glue begins to gel, I use the pencil with the steel wire


All others:

Thanks for your interest and comments!
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: bowandarrow473 on November 07, 2015, 09:43:45 am
I really wanna see the finished product now!
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: Aaron H on November 07, 2015, 09:45:23 am
Great build Simon, looks like it's gonna be a sweet shooter.
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: loon on December 18, 2015, 05:38:18 pm
Any updates? ;_;
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: simson on January 12, 2016, 12:56:29 pm
sorry for that long wait guys - hope you have still interest

Here comes the next step, I've done it 2 weeks after the first. This is my second and last layer of sinew, not as much as the first.

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%201%20von%2013_zpspqdycrox.jpg)

I preped the first layer carefully with some layers of thinned hide glue.

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%202%20von%2013_zpsraczhiwq.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%203%20von%2013_zps4iluc7sj.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%204%20von%2013_zpsokra2yex.jpg)

Here you can see how the bow is attached to my sinewing rack. A short piece of ff, two srews and two wedges do the job.

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%205%20von%2013_zpsii1ilisy.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%206%20von%2013_zpssdprgunq.jpg)

The bow is braced backwards like in the first sinew session

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%207%20von%2013_zpsddnhb6dc.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%208%20von%2013_zpsibcyeqn8.jpg)

No pics from the sinew job, because of sticky glue …., but this is how she came out after 3 days of wrapping with rubber textile

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%209%20von%2013_zpseqimf54b.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2010%20von%2013_zpsvandmoq6.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2011%20von%2013_zpsvoklc4pc.jpg)

After further 10 days I did wrappings at handle and tips. I secured the parts left and right with tape.

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2012%20von%2013_zpsl99kdbcf.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2013%20von%2013_zps0kj4ga8i.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2014%20von%2035_zpslzbzg4mt.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2015%20von%2035_zpskhfju51v.jpg)


After  a week the  sinew wrapping has cured enough to go for painting with earth pigments.

I always wanted to make a nw-coast bow. But wasn't lucky enough to get my hands on a suitable piece of yew. This bow has nothing to do with nw-coast, but it's a shorty and a good spezimen to improve my skills in nw-coast art. So forgive me when I try to do a nw – coast motive on a sinewed osage with statics. It's just an exercise …

First the whole sinewed limbs get a first layer of bright ocre

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2016%20von%2035_zpsn8eecbga.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2017%20von%2035_zpsc4xi5dfy.jpg)

I will try a thunderbird on one limb and a lizard on the other

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2018%20von%2035_zpscqcrsj5e.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2019%20von%2035_zpsst6fiq8f.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2020%20von%2035_zpsfh5wp0vp.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2021%20von%2035_zpsow3jawvl.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2022%20von%2035_zpst5fxb21y.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2023%20von%2035_zpslighol1g.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2024%20von%2035_zpsfnp4nead.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2025%20von%2035_zpsdiwl4p5h.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2025%20von%2035_zpsdiwl4p5h.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2026%20von%2035_zpsbwif1t2q.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2027%20von%2035_zpsg0v3bkou.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2028%20von%2035_zpsjbmmxrqs.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2029%20von%2035_zpstsgom8gs.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2030%20von%2035_zpszgmteslf.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2031%20von%2035_zpskfpghszb.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2032%20von%2035_zpsgpd0kkmj.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2033%20von%2035_zpsgqvzpglh.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2034%20von%2035_zpsq0dcungv.jpg)

(http://i1252.photobucket.com/albums/hh576/orangesimson/1511%20osage%20sinewed%20shorty/osage%20shorty%20nw-style%20-%2035%20von%2035_zps3qhwzh1p.jpg)


Well, the paint job turned out quite nice (at least for me :laugh:), but looks something new kinda clean. I will let cure the whole things for a couple of days and then go for finish the back with my hardening oil and rubbing in some mud and dark brown pigments. Additional sanding here and there will provide the desired used look, hopefully.

I will continue when I find the time ...
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: JonW on January 12, 2016, 01:01:25 pm
All I got is WOW!!
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: The Gopher on January 12, 2016, 01:03:17 pm
That is looking GREAT!
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: DC on January 12, 2016, 01:05:17 pm
That looks really cool!
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: Urufu_Shinjiro on January 12, 2016, 01:07:00 pm
WOW is an understatement!
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: Aaron H on January 12, 2016, 01:23:56 pm
Looks good Simon
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: bradsmith2010 on January 12, 2016, 02:15:39 pm
thats looking great,,nice job on the art,,, I know it will shoot well too,, :)
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: Will B on January 12, 2016, 02:24:24 pm
Thanks for taking us through that.  Amazing artwork and I bet it hits hard.  Great job!
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: Sasquatch on January 12, 2016, 02:49:28 pm
That is a Dream Bow! what a display of art, and engineering. WOW
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: Hans H on January 12, 2016, 03:05:45 pm
many thanks for sharing this, Simon. This is a really beautiful bow an I bet she is not only an eyecatcher
congrats,    Hans
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: TimPotter on January 12, 2016, 04:42:04 pm
Oh wow! That came out fantastic. Thanks for sharing the whole process.
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: PlanB on January 12, 2016, 08:28:57 pm
Paint job looks good on it!
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: Danzn Bar on January 12, 2016, 08:57:08 pm
Great work on the sinew job ....incredible job on the painting ...very  8)
DBar
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: AndrewS on January 13, 2016, 05:16:05 am
Moin Simon,

great work - I like the nw- paintings, too!
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: sieddy on January 13, 2016, 06:18:28 am
OMG!  :D
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: Stick Bender on January 13, 2016, 06:43:44 am
Awsome !! Sweet !! Cant wait to hear about the final shoot.
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: Pappy on January 13, 2016, 06:52:03 am
Really nice work so far Simon. Look forward to see it shooting. :)
 Pappy
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: smoke on January 13, 2016, 08:54:28 am
As usual, a great job Simon!  You are extraordinarily talented.
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: George Tsoukalas on January 13, 2016, 09:05:17 am
Most impressive, Simon. Thanks for sharing your talents. Jawge
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: BowEd on January 13, 2016, 09:25:02 am
A labor of love into this one.Extra nice job.
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: Stoker on January 13, 2016, 09:51:19 am
Amazing work.. Beautiful as always..
Thanks Leroy
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: simson on January 13, 2016, 11:16:42 am
Thanks folks for your nice compliments!
Maybe I can finish the stick this weekend, hope the raining stops a few hours to do finish pics - we will see.
Title: Re: osage sinewed shorty with static recurves (No. 71)
Post by: jimmy on January 13, 2016, 11:24:21 am
Simpson, you are the freakin' master.  Beautiful as usual.