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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Tracker0721 on October 21, 2015, 04:06:53 pm

Title: First osage selfbow tiller help
Post by: Tracker0721 on October 21, 2015, 04:06:53 pm
60" ntn, little under 55@28, widest part of any limb is 15/16" due to the staves shape.

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w44/Dylan_Halbach/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsqzfzpbow.jpg) (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/Dylan_Halbach/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsqzfzpbow.jpg.html)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w44/Dylan_Halbach/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsyaio1svu.jpg) (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/Dylan_Halbach/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsyaio1svu.jpg.html)

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w44/Dylan_Halbach/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsvjxakqot.jpg) (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/Dylan_Halbach/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsvjxakqot.jpg.html)


Supposed to be a stiff handle bow because the middle of the handle has a big twist from a knot that I removed. Because of my splint I held it a little low apparently, couldn't grip like normal...

Should I remove some more wood from the outer limbs and try straightening the bend in the handle, maybe reflex the limbs? It took a bit of set in the handle area.
Title: Re: First osage selfbow tiller help
Post by: Tracker0721 on October 21, 2015, 04:11:21 pm
And I got these cracks in the handle from taking said set.

(http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w44/Dylan_Halbach/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsavu8gthq.jpg) (http://s173.photobucket.com/user/Dylan_Halbach/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsavu8gthq.jpg.html)

Planning to wrap with something then do a leather handle wrap. Already filled with good super glue
Title: Re: First osage selfbow tiller help
Post by: Pat B on October 21, 2015, 04:36:42 pm
Looks pretty good for your first osage bow. The outer portion of the bottom limb looks like it could bend a bit more though.
 A hemp cord wrap will hold that and saturate it with Massey finish. It makes a very strong wrap plus a good, comfortable handle wrap. I use it on most of my bows anymore.
Title: Re: First osage selfbow tiller help
Post by: bubby on October 21, 2015, 04:55:04 pm
Yup like pat said bottom limb is doing most of the bending avout eight inches below your hand get the rest bending more and it is looking alright
Title: Re: First osage selfbow tiller help
Post by: bradsmith2010 on October 21, 2015, 05:31:29 pm
looking good, good advice from above,,, if your draw is as in the pic,, maybe a little less than 28,,, great,, dont draw the bow to 28 any more,, and it will take less set at your draw,,and have better cast at the shorter draw,, :)
Title: Re: First osage selfbow tiller help
Post by: sieddy on October 21, 2015, 06:32:45 pm
Looking good man- hope it finishes up as you wanted! :-)
Pat- what's a Massey finish? (I'm guessing it's an approach Jay Massey developed/favored)
Title: Re: First osage selfbow tiller help
Post by: Tracker0721 on October 21, 2015, 06:59:50 pm
I see that hinge thing now! Thanks guys. I was gonna ask the same about the Massey finish. And even though it may be overkill, can I leather wrap it over that? If this bow holds together for a few hundred more shots I'm gonna skin it. I have a bit over 100 shots with it now.
Title: Re: First osage selfbow tiller help
Post by: bradsmith2010 on October 21, 2015, 07:31:11 pm
yes you can leather wrap over it,, :)
Title: Re: First osage selfbow tiller help
Post by: Pat B on October 21, 2015, 07:37:28 pm
A leather wrap over the hemp cord wrap may make the handle too big in diameter for your comfort. You could reduce the diameter of the handle a bit though.
Title: Re: First osage selfbow tiller help
Post by: Green on October 21, 2015, 08:24:20 pm
Nice work Dylan!  Dang'd if you're not almost there.  Hope the finger heals up quick so you can get on to that new job!
Title: Re: First osage selfbow tiller help
Post by: Tracker0721 on October 21, 2015, 11:14:04 pm
Okay Mr. B I went through threads to try finding pictures of your handles, boy do those look nice. But I couldn't find how you mix up your Massey finish? Is it the 10 parts acetone to 1 part epoxy like another guy said? And if I'm skinning it do I skin it first? And if I'm just using spray on miniwax poly to seal the bow do I do that first or add that to the layer of finish on the wrap?
Title: Re: First osage selfbow tiller help
Post by: Pat B on October 21, 2015, 11:47:20 pm
I do 1 or 2 coats of sealer first before adding the wrap. I don't measure the Massey finish but mix the 2 part epoxy(I use 2ton in the double syringe) well first then add acetone until it is pretty thin. I use a rolled up paper towel to apply the finish by dabbing the handle with the saturated towel roll.
 I normally add shins, rawhide, etc. before adding the handle wrap but you can add skins later over the finish and just butt it against the handle wrap.