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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: arachnid on July 08, 2015, 05:45:18 am

Title: Never Give Up HOPE..... 45#@26"
Post by: arachnid on July 08, 2015, 05:45:18 am: Hi Guys.

It`s been a while since I`ve posted something so here`s a story for ya`all.

The bowyer virus grew strong in the past year. Mainly due to that fact I`ve been shooting the same bow all this time. I really wanted
a new bow, something that would pack more punch and look a bit fancier then my trusty WOBI flatbow. All of the bow`s I built
during this year were not to my satisfaction.
About 2 months ago, I picked up a nice piece of ipe and decided to make a reflex reflex BBI. Sadly I don`t have a belt sander
and I was too lazy to flatten the bamboo by hand, so I used white oak as a backing instead. Tillering went o.k until I heard the
"CRACK" (you know what I`m talking about). The backing lift a splinter but fortunately the ipe remained intact.
Since I really wanted to complete this bow I decide to use the piece of bamboo I have...

Much to my surprise, flattening it was pretty fast using a sharp spokeshave and a rough sand paper. Once that was done, I removed the white oak from the ipe.
I heated the bow over my stove and once the glue melted I used my drawknife to remove the backing.... peels like a banana... ;D

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/LcziBGayho2fPa46gGeDRkvduXClmOlXl95esg3IrgU=w1274-h955-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/imzAAODckmVJo2WHK1gyqKpThbNwofwVqcm3uZq4xc0=w1274-h955-no)

Cleaned Up the ipe, glued the bamboo, tillered the bow (had some string alignment issues but got over it) and here she is...

67" tip to tip
Bamboo backed ipe
A Mulberry piece with sapwood and heartwood for the handle + leather wrap
45#@26"
Upper limb is just under an inch longer

My best shooter yet, smooth draw, hits hard and fast (even with my heavy fiberglass arrows....) and although not flawless, she`s my best looker....

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/pRMs2wJzC7p6todOciovJIF8USGGnHhenm_QIoezvms=w1274-h955-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/4twnuiXqhDIVqoiep13FzP-GVS-JWs8TTXOrgjWCWKc=w717-h955-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/jlLv-Qhd7Mm8rPRQAQvVjV4xxzWhHw44yC83tJnF36A=w717-h955-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/XKI1g-hizKkrn4ZFa0tox75sFMXb5T4bByxXzCxjZdk=w1274-h955-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/XlxXh5pKFQqjLGSmZo5JonnHj-F60_myTTFjhoTKOQk=w717-h955-no)

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/3QHIJZj1QkVqEK5SpbW3WGnAzeQNROAzPG6gkLCxHhM=w717-h955-no)

And the money shot...

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/R2gBHvR0VIHLXMfnsXvWxkD3_WxEg2EHI88hJkXS8gU=w1274-h955-no)

I`ve learned a lot from this build about dealing with problems but the most important lesson was to never give up hope...

Dor
Title: Re: Never Give Up HOPE..... 45#@26"
Post by: Del the cat on July 08, 2015, 05:59:36 am: Great save... yup, it's the problems that teach us the skills.
Your experience with the bamboo is much like mine... we get lured into thinking power tools are great time savers when sometimes a good sharp hand tool is way quicker.
My well sharpened plane takes 'boo down a treat, and I save the belt sander for taking out the tool marks and final flattening.
Del
Title: Re: Never Give Up HOPE..... 45#@26"
Post by: PEARL DRUMS on July 08, 2015, 09:22:11 am: Nice recovery. I learned a lot from rebuilding bows myself.
Title: Re: Never Give Up HOPE..... 45#@26"
Post by: George Tsoukalas on July 08, 2015, 09:31:38 am: Very nice bow. Way to stick with it! Jawge
Title: Re: Never Give Up HOPE..... 45#@26"
Post by: arachnid on July 08, 2015, 09:41:37 am: Thanks guys.
Since it's my first "real" reflex deflex bow I's like some critique on my tiller...
Title: Re: Never Give Up HOPE..... 45#@26"
Post by: bushboy on July 08, 2015, 10:17:35 am: Cool story,good save and looks nice! 8)always best to do a FD with and arrow,looks like your drawing a little high on center.
Title: Re: Never Give Up HOPE..... 45#@26"
Post by: Del the cat on July 08, 2015, 10:18:48 am: Quote from: arachnid on July 08, 2015, 09:41:37 am
Thanks guys.
Since it's my first "real" reflex deflex bow I's like some critique on my tiller...
Not my thing but maybe the fades are a tad long/stiff and maybe the outers could uncoil a whisker more?
Del
Title: Re: Never Give Up HOPE..... 45#@26"
Post by: alwayslookin on July 08, 2015, 11:04:10 am: Great job showing that bow who's boss.
Title: Re: Never Give Up HOPE..... 45#@26"
Post by: Pat B on July 08, 2015, 11:10:43 am: Nice save, Dor. I have a hard time reading R/D bows too but I agree with Del about the tiller.
Title: Re: Never Give Up HOPE..... 45#@26"
Post by: Carson (CMB) on July 08, 2015, 11:47:39 am: Way to stick it :)

You said the upper limb is one inch longer? Does it have a positive tiller at brace?
Title: Re: Never Give Up HOPE..... 45#@26"
Post by: arachnid on July 08, 2015, 11:56:28 am: Carson- I think it looks like becaus of the angle of the picture.

Del and Pat- Thats what I thought about the tiller. I think the most common difficulty in tillering R/D bows is having the mid-limb not bending as much.
It was worse actualy... mid limb was even stiffer when I thought I finished tillering and I did try to fix it.

Is that bad? I don't want to take off more weight but it's more important that the bow will last and won't fret (I think ipe can hold a not-so-perfect tiller, am I wrong)?

Dor
Title: Re: Never Give Up HOPE..... 45#@26"
Post by: burchett.donald on July 08, 2015, 01:00:04 pm: Dor, you went from lemons to lemonaid man, nice save and determination ;)
Don
Title: Re: Never Give Up HOPE..... 45#@26"
Post by: arachnid on July 08, 2015, 02:30:43 pm: Thanks Don.
I remember you always incouraged me when I started to make bows... look where that broght me.. ;)

Thanks Alwayslookin...
When will stop looking and stat showing? ;)
Title: Re: Never Give Up HOPE..... 45#@26"
Post by: Pappy on July 09, 2015, 07:28:50 am: Nice save, most would have trashed it. Way to stick with it turned out nice. :)
Pappy
Title: Re: Never Give Up HOPE..... 45#@26"
Post by: arachnid on July 09, 2015, 08:07:20 am: Quote from: Pappy on July 09, 2015, 07:28:50 am
Nice save, most would have trashed it. Way to stick with it turned out nice. :)
Pappy

Well, I worked on the ipe on and off for 2 months... it was a real waste to just throw it...

Thanks Pappy!
Title: Re: Never Give Up HOPE..... 45#@26"
Post by: bradsmith2010 on July 09, 2015, 01:28:57 pm: nice save,, congrats,,
Title: Re: Never Give Up HOPE..... 45#@26"
Post by: burchett.donald on July 09, 2015, 08:01:49 pm: Thank you Dor, that's nice to know...I think your determination and love for archery is what brought you where your at...You are continuing to evolve and improve as a bowyer...keep at it ;)
Don