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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: bushboy on June 13, 2015, 12:17:18 pm

Title: string slap
Post by: bushboy on June 13, 2015, 12:17:18 pm
Is a little string slap normal,close to the wrist?dose it slow the arrow or is it the string going past straight on the release?thx's rob!
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: DC on June 13, 2015, 12:25:20 pm
I was just reading about this last night in "Shooting the Stickbow". If it's low on your wrist, right on the joint he say's it's probably the brace height is to low. Apparently common on longbows. I think when he says longbows he's referring to anything that isn't a modern recurve.
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: bubby on June 13, 2015, 12:26:20 pm
are you using b-50, fast flight will eliminate wrist slap 95% of the time
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: bushboy on June 13, 2015, 12:34:07 pm
I use ff,guess maybe a brace height thing?
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: GB on June 13, 2015, 12:38:49 pm
Some times just raising the BH 1/4" or 1/2" gets rid of it.
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: DC on June 13, 2015, 12:39:45 pm
What is your brace height? I found that if I bend my wrist away from the string a bit it helps. I get slapped once in a while but usually towards the end of a shooting session when I'm getting a little tired and my concentration starts to go away.
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: bushboy on June 13, 2015, 12:50:52 pm
About 5-1/4" on average.
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: DC on June 13, 2015, 12:55:04 pm
Now you're got something to try, good luck
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: George Tsoukalas on June 13, 2015, 01:13:42 pm
Is that 5.25 measured to the belly? Seems low.
I go 7-7.5 from string to back of bow.
Start at fletch clearing distance.
Jawge
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: bubby on June 13, 2015, 01:26:43 pm
Cock your wrist a bit and bend your elbow slightly thin will move the string away if brace height doesn't take care of it
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: mikekeswick on June 13, 2015, 02:28:36 pm
Yes bend your wrist and elbow of the bow arm, don't stand too upright and maybe raise your brace by a 1/4 inch. I don't think there is any need to brace higher than 6 inch (from the belly).
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: bradsmith2010 on June 14, 2015, 02:07:16 pm
I shoot my brace as low as I can and get good arrow flight,,when shooting through the chrono,, the lower brace will shoot really well,(even with wrist slap), but there is a sweet spot on every bow that takes a little shooting to determine ,,, I shoot b 50,, I am an old guy,, :)
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: Pappy on June 15, 2015, 08:37:20 am
I set most at about 5 1/2 to 6 inches from the belly, sometime as Mike said bend the wrist helps but also look and see if the string is tracking down the center, You usually can tell this when you hold the bow like you are going to shoot it or with a really low brace, hard to tell just looking down the bow, you can make it look like it tracks anywhere you want looking down it. You can get by if it tracks slightly toward the arrow pass side but if it favors it much it can slap your wrist also.
   Pappy
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: OTDEAN on June 15, 2015, 09:59:51 am
Just increase your brace height to fistmele.  IF the brace height is high enough when the string returns it wont go anywhere near your bow arm.  Having a high brace does put your limbs under more stress but I prefer it. 
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: Eric Krewson on June 15, 2015, 10:08:15 am
Some of us have an arm configuration that catches the string, I am one of those folk. I can't shoot B-50 without a lot of string slap, DF-97 helps a lot as does a slightly higher brace height.
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: OTDEAN on June 15, 2015, 10:20:06 am
Take your point Eric about the bi0-mechanics of individual arms.  I have very long orangutang arms so I get away from wrist slap with a high brace.
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: Mo_coon-catcher on June 15, 2015, 11:35:44 am
Using D-97 I usually don't have issues with string slap it the brace is above 5" from the belly side. I probably get by with a shorter brace because I shoot with my bow arm bent a little more than normal.

Kyle
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: bowmo on June 15, 2015, 02:27:05 pm
7.5" brace?! That's like a glass recurve height. I brace mine at 5.5" and don't notice any slap as long as my arm guard is on. More energy for the arrow.
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: dragonman on June 15, 2015, 03:23:24 pm
I brace my bows at 5.5" and dont need arm protection ....so cant see any need to brace over that....I agree a wooden bow should be ok at 5.5" to  6" of brace
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: Marc St Louis on June 15, 2015, 03:30:59 pm
It is curious.  I can go down to less than 5" with FF and get no slap
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: George Tsoukalas on June 15, 2015, 04:42:41 pm
LOL.
Once again and as I stated in my previous post, my brace heights are usually 7-7.5 in. from string to BACK of bow.  That's around 5..5 to 6 inches to the belly as the crow flies with a 1.5 in handle thickness. :)
I start at fletch clearing distance and increase as needed.
It is what it is. I wonder where I heard that? :)
Jawge
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: bowmo on June 15, 2015, 04:46:07 pm
Heck...that mini bow I recently made and have been shooting every day to the tune of over 1,000 shots barely slaps me and is braced at only 3.5 inches...

And yea George...I def missed the from the back of the bow part. I don't think many people measure that way tho.
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: GB on June 15, 2015, 06:47:17 pm
I usually start at 5 1/2" brace but sometimes go as high as 6 1/4" to get rid of a little string slap or to get better arrow flight.  I shoot about 8 different bows on a regular basis, some are selfbows, some BBO's, some hickory backed tri-lams and recurves and they all shoot a little better (or worse) within that BH range.  I just recently switched to making D97 strings and some still have B50 on them as well.  I don't think there is anything written in stone as far as what your exact BH should always be as long as it isn't unnecessarily high.  Like it's been mentioned, everyone has their own shooting form, too.  I keep my elbow locked and anchor at my chin straight below my right eye.  But, a great shot I ain't and am always looking for form tips. ;)
Title: Re: string slap
Post by: George Tsoukalas on June 15, 2015, 07:37:02 pm
Well heck, bowmo. It's the way  I always did it since since about 1956. We measure  our draws to the back of the bow. Don't we? :)
Jawge

Title: Re: string slap
Post by: bowmo on June 15, 2015, 10:51:16 pm
Haha...yeeeees.

But, where your palm contacts the belly side of the handle defines how close the string is to your wrist. Both make sense to me, I've just always measured of the belly side.