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Title: Utah (Vernon hills) Wonderstone
Post by: JoJoDapyro on June 11, 2015, 11:04:51 pm
I'm still pounding away on this stuff. A little better spalling thanks to some hours watching Jack Crafty. This was all done with a quartz 1 pound hammer stone. I'll see if I can get some flaking done on it tomorrow.
Title: Re: Utah (Vernon hills) Wonderstone
Post by: Redhand on June 12, 2015, 12:49:58 pm
That is cool looking stone.  Did you go out and collect it yourself?
Title: Re: Utah (Vernon hills) Wonderstone
Post by: JackCrafty on June 12, 2015, 12:53:22 pm
Wonderstone is TOUGH... so I've heard.  I never tried it.  That looks like good hammerstone work.  :)  I tend to snap workpieces when they get thin and I'm smacking away with a hammerstone.
Title: Re: Utah (Vernon hills) Wonderstone
Post by: JoJoDapyro on June 12, 2015, 05:03:26 pm
I did collect it myself. As well as heat treat it. It is very hard. Very Very Hard.
Title: Re: Utah (Vernon hills) Wonderstone
Post by: Redhand on June 12, 2015, 10:33:43 pm
Vernon hills isn't that by Tooele. That's about a 3 hour drive for me. I would like to try knapping some of that stone.
Title: Re: Utah (Vernon hills) Wonderstone
Post by: JoJoDapyro on June 13, 2015, 02:52:28 pm
It is Redhand. From Tooele drive south to Vernon. Pass through the town (stop at the silver spur for a bite to eat) keep going south until you get the the railroad (about 4 miles) turn left. The dirt road is a monster if its wet. You can see the pit from down the hill a bit. It is about 2 miles from the highway to the pit. Someone takes a front end loader and digs it out, so it is scattered all over the ground. Some is very coarse, and hasn't been good for knapping. I just took my rock hammer and broke a corner off chunks until I found good chunks. Also, it doesn't flake very well, it is very very tough. Mine has been heat treated at 680 degrees for 12 hours. I'm am going to try another batch at a higher temp to see if that improves the flaking. If you don't have access to a kiln, let me know. I can make another run and get some heat treated and if you come out I can trade heat treated for raw. Let me know. I'm in Sandy.
Title: Re: Utah (Vernon hills) Wonderstone
Post by: bubby on June 13, 2015, 04:19:15 pm
Jo try the same heat for 24 hrs
Title: Re: Utah (Vernon hills) Wonderstone
Post by: JoJoDapyro on June 13, 2015, 08:53:58 pm
Can I reheat the same stone?
Title: Re: Utah (Vernon hills) Wonderstone
Post by: Trapper Rob on June 13, 2015, 10:20:00 pm
JoJo you can put it back in the kiln.
Title: Re: Utah (Vernon hills) Wonderstone
Post by: JoJoDapyro on June 13, 2015, 10:34:45 pm
Awesome. I'll go fire it up here in a few.
Title: Re: Utah (Vernon hills) Wonderstone
Post by: caveman2533 on June 14, 2015, 10:00:54 am
This look like the same place?

(http://www.paleotube.com/m/photos/get_image/file/2e513ad6e6910be7b4f0fe522aa996a9.jpg)

(http://www.paleotube.com/m/photos/get_image/file/496ea26418d573fc60cbadacafec4b9c.jpg)
Title: Re: Utah (Vernon hills) Wonderstone
Post by: Redhand on June 14, 2015, 11:32:14 am
That would be great thank you
Title: Re: Utah (Vernon hills) Wonderstone
Post by: JoJoDapyro on June 14, 2015, 07:58:10 pm
Yes Sir. Looks dang near the same. I'll get on my PC and upload a photo I took.
Title: Re: Utah (Vernon hills) Wonderstone
Post by: Ghost Knapper on June 18, 2015, 10:18:53 pm
Does anyone have any finished points made out of this stuff? I believe I have some but not 100% sure, had it given to me a time or two ago and just stumbled upon it again.
Title: Re: Utah (Vernon hills) Wonderstone
Post by: Majuba Tom on June 18, 2015, 10:56:49 pm
Here is one from Nevada wounder stone I made.
Title: Re: Utah (Vernon hills) Wonderstone
Post by: Ghost Knapper on June 18, 2015, 11:38:14 pm
Kool, the stuff I have most definitely could almost be a possibility of being wonderstone....I will have to try and make something and post a picture.  :P
Title: Re: Utah (Vernon hills) Wonderstone
Post by: JoJoDapyro on June 20, 2015, 11:55:43 am
Tom, is yours heat treated? I just did mine again last weekend. Not the greatest photo but it turned one band blue.
Title: Re: Utah (Vernon hills) Wonderstone
Post by: JoJoDapyro on June 20, 2015, 04:04:31 pm
Went out and decided to finish the point I posted to start this thread. Here it is. This is heated to 680 for 12 hours.