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Main Discussion Area => Flintknapping => Topic started by: Ghost Knapper on June 07, 2015, 10:53:55 pm

Title: Dalton
Post by: Ghost Knapper on June 07, 2015, 10:53:55 pm
Didn't get this in last month and it isn't a Sloan but still a dalton. Made a another today but havent taken a picture of it yet. This one is maybe an inch or two in length. Enjoy.
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b604/joelbookhammer/dalton_zpsm9llrckk.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/joelbookhammer/media/dalton_zpsm9llrckk.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Dalton
Post by: JackCrafty on June 07, 2015, 11:14:54 pm
Sweeet!   8)  Love the photography too.
Title: Re: Dalton
Post by: nclonghunter on June 07, 2015, 11:26:16 pm
I really like the black rock. It looks like Kanawha WV chert. Those dark points just look old and ancient to me. Good one and the photography is really good also.
Title: Re: Dalton
Post by: turbo on June 08, 2015, 12:46:18 am
Yeah, great job on both point and photography. What did you use to photograph that point? Dark points are hard to get right on photos.
Title: Re: Dalton
Post by: cowboy on June 08, 2015, 08:10:30 am
Deffinantly a dalton. Nice work!
Title: Re: Dalton
Post by: Majuba Tom on June 08, 2015, 08:19:13 am
Like everyone else said. Looks ancient nice work.
Title: Re: Dalton
Post by: Zuma on June 08, 2015, 10:20:39 am
Nice Ghost.
Did you photograph that one on a suspended
piece of glass?
A re sharpened version. More the way they are found.
Zuma
Title: Re: Dalton
Post by: StevenT on June 08, 2015, 10:34:18 am
I'm like everyone else, admiring the point and how it was photographed. Whatever technique you used for that picture is as impressive as the point! I am hoping you share how you did it.
Title: Re: Dalton
Post by: soy on June 08, 2015, 11:47:57 am
That is cool 8)
Title: Re: Dalton
Post by: Chippintuff on June 08, 2015, 02:14:36 pm
I agree with all the rest. That is fine work, a keeper for sure.

WA
Title: Re: Dalton
Post by: Ghost Knapper on June 08, 2015, 06:42:39 pm
Thanks for all the compliments. I have started a keeper case of the personal best of each point style that I can make and that one so far has the "dalton" spot. When I make one that I feel is better weather artistic or authentic wise it will get replaced. I have never done a case like that usually if it goes in it stays in unless its a case of points for sale. The case so far has that dalton, a susquehanna made of texas material, a perkiomen made of PA jasper, a georgetown hardin, a snyders made from onondaga, and my "best failure" so far....that one will most likely never leave that spot in the case, some of you have saw it for those that havent I will post a pic sometime.

So to answer the photography questions. First off I never (well hardly ever) modify a point that I photograph, but I do modify the photograph itself. Below is an example, the point is "identical" in both but its  surroundings changed in photoshop. I took the picture at a spring knap-in (Oregon Ridge). I liked the burlap background but wanted to make it less busy. So once again I did not alter the point just its surroundings.

When photographing anything good light is key. If you have bad light you most likely will have a bad photo. So for this one I used the sun to light the point, but placed a whitish card on the opposite side of the point to bounce some light back to it, you can see the card in the first photo. Dark points like the dalton in the original post really pop when you place a fill card (anything white) on the opposite side of the light source weather its the sun, an off camera flash, or a table lamp. It helps to fill in the shadowy areas. So thats the gist of it. If anyone wants I can explain alittle more how I photograph my points with ways that you can do with a simple digital camera.

(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b604/joelbookhammer/DSCF8430_zpstsw4yarx.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/joelbookhammer/media/DSCF8430_zpstsw4yarx.jpg.html)
(http://i1294.photobucket.com/albums/b604/joelbookhammer/DSCF8335_zpsojpuvtvh.jpg) (http://s1294.photobucket.com/user/joelbookhammer/media/DSCF8335_zpsojpuvtvh.jpg.html)

nclonghunter- Im not 100% sure the material, its definitely out of either new york or ohio
Zuma- Nice attempt at figuring out how I photographed it. I spent my drive home from work (about 30min) figuring out how to duplicate it that way you thought it was originally done, I am so going to try it. I got it all figured out except how to get the glass perfectly clean. Hopefully I can post my attempt soon!
Title: Re: Dalton
Post by: soy on June 08, 2015, 11:39:10 pm
That is some wild looking stone  :o
Title: Re: Dalton
Post by: turbo on June 10, 2015, 01:22:45 am
If anyone wants I can explain alittle more how I photograph my points with ways that you can do with a simple digital camera.

Thanks for the detailed response. Yes, I'd like to know more. Being camera poor, how could one get a decent pic w/ an iPhone and no Photoshop?
Title: Re: Dalton
Post by: Chippintuff on June 10, 2015, 12:48:18 pm
We need to have banner photos. That last one would make it for sure.

WA
Title: Re: Dalton
Post by: Zuma on June 10, 2015, 03:23:10 pm
Getting good photos of the point of the month,--
that is if they are going to be featured in the PA mag
would be quite important.
Good thread. :)
Zuma
Title: Re: Dalton
Post by: Ghost Knapper on June 10, 2015, 10:13:39 pm
Turbo- Yeah I will do some set up shots with my wifes phone its not an Iphone but its the same concept.

Chippin- A banner would be interesting or something along the lines, especially across the whole PA form and not just the flintknapping section.

Zuma- I have followed that post alittle regarding the point of the month, there is some really good work from everyone on this site that could be utilized.
Title: Re: Dalton
Post by: Ghost Knapper on June 10, 2015, 10:20:41 pm
Woops almost forgot Soy. The last photo is of some pretty crazy PA Jasper. The point was made by Steve. There was a post titled "lets play a game"  a couple weeks ago featuring it.