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Title: favourite bow-wood EXCEPT yew or osage?
Post by: stuckinthemud on April 11, 2015, 06:40:39 pm
Evening All!
this is just for fun, but it seems pretty clear to me that the timber of choice for our American cousins is osage, while we on this side of the pond would seem to pick yew as first choice for bows (sweeping statement!), so what comes next?  What timber would you choose, and why, if you could choose any timber, but could not use yew or osage orange?  >:D :) :D
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Post by: osage outlaw on April 11, 2015, 06:45:13 pm
Hophornbeam. 
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Post by: George Tsoukalas on April 11, 2015, 06:54:24 pm
Hickory. Jawge
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Post by: burchett.donald on April 11, 2015, 06:55:31 pm
Ocean Spray... ;)
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Post by: GB on April 11, 2015, 07:33:42 pm
Hickory.  But then again, I haven't had a chance to try hophornbeam, ocean spray, vine maple, grey elm, etc...
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Post by: IndianGuy on April 11, 2015, 07:33:58 pm
Black locust  8)
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Post by: JonW on April 11, 2015, 07:35:12 pm
Black locust  8)

Yippers!
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Post by: PEARL DRUMS on April 11, 2015, 07:50:14 pm
Clean and straight anymore.
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Post by: huisme on April 11, 2015, 07:55:31 pm
Locust still beats yew and osage in my book >:D >:D >:D
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Post by: Mark Smeltzer on April 11, 2015, 07:56:16 pm
Hickory for sure. Its fast and tough.

Mark
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Post by: Mark Smeltzer on April 11, 2015, 07:57:34 pm
I do like Black Locust too!!

Mark
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Post by: dylanholderman on April 11, 2015, 07:58:47 pm
of the woods i have worked with hophornbeam
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Post by: sleek on April 11, 2015, 08:06:47 pm
ELM!
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Post by: bradsmith2010 on April 11, 2015, 08:40:08 pm
I'm confused ???
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Post by: H Rhodes on April 11, 2015, 09:06:14 pm
white oak
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Post by: DC on April 11, 2015, 09:09:35 pm
Ocean Spray!
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Post by: TRACY on April 11, 2015, 10:00:31 pm
Hickory ,black locust, and ironwood(hop hornbeam )


Tracy
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Post by: Sasquatch on April 11, 2015, 10:21:59 pm
Ash juniper,  or hop hornbeam
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Post by: Weylin on April 11, 2015, 10:47:58 pm
Vine Maple.  8)
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Post by: wizardgoat on April 12, 2015, 12:21:03 am
Juniper, ocean spray, black locust
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Post by: Gordon on April 12, 2015, 12:35:34 am
Vine maple of course.
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Post by: Traxx on April 12, 2015, 12:59:21 am
In my region and climate,For selfbows,Hickory has always been king in my book.For Sinew backed,Juniper is king,but i think im going to experiment,with russian olive soon.
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Post by: bushboy on April 12, 2015, 02:01:39 am
Elm,because it grows locally,light,elastic and response to heat treating very well.also suitable for almost every design.plus I love the smell!
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Post by: DarkSoul on April 12, 2015, 07:00:44 am
I like working a variety of wood. Yew is the queen here, on this side of the pond. But I like working English ash and black locust as well. Even ipé comes to mind.
But the best is for sure a piece of Mongolian tulipwood!



 >:D
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Post by: Rcdeer on April 12, 2015, 07:33:19 am
umm...unbroken............uncracked lol..I have a hickory stave now,,I'll let ya know if I like it..or if it likes me!
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Post by: Lee Lobbestael on April 12, 2015, 07:47:37 am
I like hickory and white oak alot but I am actually finishing up a self bow of red oak cut last fall and I really love it! Its fast and lighter than white oak and nicer than hickory or elm to work. Not sure why its labled as an inferior bow wood
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Post by: Dances with squirrels on April 12, 2015, 08:49:18 am
Hophornbeam.
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Post by: Marc St Louis on April 12, 2015, 09:30:11 am
The question is kind of open ended but I will interpret it as best bow wood regardless of availability and my answer would be Plum
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Post by: koan on April 12, 2015, 09:50:43 am
HHB..... Brian
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Post by: Onebowonder on April 12, 2015, 10:42:38 am
Clean and straight anymore.
I was sure you were going to say ERC!

OneBow
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Post by: Tree_Ninja on April 12, 2015, 12:00:47 pm
I haven't made many bows, oceanspray is ok, tough to work with, it doesn't act like "wood".
Haven't finished an osoberry bow yet but it seems just as hard as OS but much lighter.

    I really like douglas maple to work with (it dries fast without checking) and it's strong. I wonder how vine maple compares to douglas.

 I wish I could get some hophornbeam. When I was in school I learned about the amazing properties of HHB. 
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Post by: Pat B on April 12, 2015, 01:27:19 pm
Hickory, elm and hop hornbeam are my favorite other woods.
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Post by: DavidV on April 12, 2015, 01:34:31 pm
Hickory. No wait.... Maple? Actually elm, that's it! Ooooh plum is good too...

It doesn't matter as long as it's straight.
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Post by: crooketarrow on April 12, 2015, 05:45:41 pm
  HICKORY  my favoret white wood by far. Pig nuts my favoret. But shag barks not bad either. I have a 64"  61# @26" HICKORY I used 7 seasons and killed 13 bucks with it. Before I retired it.
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Post by: mullet on April 12, 2015, 07:28:40 pm
ERC, vine maple, and HHB that Marc has.
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Post by: bow101 on April 12, 2015, 08:52:44 pm
Maple, Ocean spray, Black Locust.  We seem to use whats available in our area.   ::)
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Post by: vinemaplebows on April 12, 2015, 09:23:48 pm
Cascara
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Post by: vinemaplebows on April 12, 2015, 09:39:50 pm
I haven't made many bows, oceanspray is ok, tough to work with, it doesn't act like "wood".
Haven't finished an osoberry bow yet but it seems just as hard as OS but much lighter.

    I really like douglas maple to work with (it dries fast without checking) and it's strong. I wonder how vine maple compares to douglas.

 I wish I could get some hophornbeam. When I was in school I learned about the amazing properties of HHB.

Douglas maple from my experience seems to be a less snappy then vine maple. There also seems to be more mass in a finished bow, but that's here......I would not hesitate to use it though. Vine maple varies from region to region as well as douglas I presume. :)
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Post by: raylbird on April 12, 2015, 11:17:49 pm
American Beech because I love working with the wood and have made my best shooting bows with it. Hickory because it is so consistent, always strong.
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Post by: Limbit on April 13, 2015, 04:13:57 am
Juniper, Incense Cedar, Plum. I think it is hard to beat a sinew-backed juniper bow or a sinew-backed incense cedar one.  Easily worked, but not the easiest to tiller out. They shoot like nothing else, look sexy and smell great.
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Post by: bowster on April 13, 2015, 06:57:06 am
dogwood & elder
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Post by: Pappy on April 13, 2015, 08:05:30 am
HHB, Winged Elm and hickory. I would say our my top 3.
  Pappy
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Post by: Thunder on April 13, 2015, 10:36:08 am
American Elm  8)
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Post by: Del the cat on April 13, 2015, 12:05:38 pm
Hazel, it's plentiful (in UK) grows straight, v few knots, easy to work, takes heat bending and heat treatment. Very little grain to worry about although it can grow twisted, the rings are barely visible as it barely stops growing over winter, no sooner than it's lost it's leaves the catkins start appearing :)
Maybe not the fastest bows and won't take a narrow deep longbow style without chrysals. But it's great to have a go with.
I'm currently working on a Hazel warbow, aiming for 90# at about 31" but with full 32" draw.
It's at that stage where I'm getting nervous....  :o
Del
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Post by: paoliguy on April 13, 2015, 12:36:56 pm
I'm in the Hickory camp. Maybe because it's very common in my area but also because it's very forgiving.
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Post by: rossfactor on April 13, 2015, 12:43:22 pm
Well. Plum.

Gabe
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Post by: JW_Halverson on April 13, 2015, 09:24:22 pm
Free.
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Post by: mikekeswick on April 14, 2015, 03:41:40 am
Elm , elder , blackthorn ~(English osage!)
All of these will hold large amounts of reflex and will make most designs.
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Post by: steve b. on April 14, 2015, 04:07:25 am
white oak
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Post by: Carson (CMB) on April 14, 2015, 08:10:06 pm
Western serviceberry and pacific dogwood.
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Post by: wildcat hunter on April 14, 2015, 08:31:11 pm
 black locust
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Post by: Arrowind on April 14, 2015, 08:55:47 pm
Sugar Maple, Hickory...
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Post by: Badly Bent on April 14, 2015, 09:12:15 pm
Buckthorn when I can find a stave thats not defect riddled. Black locust when I can pull one off without chrysals. Elm would be a go to wood for sure. HHB although I've only made one from it to date I really
liked the way it worked. I like hickory cause its easy to find clean staves and I'll work hackberry as well.
To be honest I like 'em all and enjoy working with different woods. Even when I have osage (The King) on hand I'll still work on others too.
Man almost forgot to mention mulberry. :)