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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: Carson (CMB) on March 18, 2015, 03:57:04 pm

Title: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: Carson (CMB) on March 18, 2015, 03:57:04 pm
Here is a bow I finished up last night. I traded John Strunk for nice piece of osage that was wide, thin, flat and about 60" long with nice growth. I knew exactly what bow I wanted to make from it. I opened up Alleley and Hamm to the Osage Indians section and studied the simple pyramid bow that Saxton Pope supposedly test shot and was impressed with. I made the bow to the specs except that the version I made was elongated compared to the original.

The bow came in at 60 # at 26" draw and it was a real arrow launcher. However, I needed to make the bow for a person who needed a lighter bow. I brought it down in width and thickness until it hit 42# at 27".
 
Tip to tip the bow is 58.5" ntn is 57.5"
about 1" wide through handle, and 2" wide at widest. (it was 2 3/8" before the weight loss)
The pin nocks are 1/4" wide.
Beeswax finish and braintan deer thong handle wrapped. Between the beeswax and the smokey braintan this is the best smelling bow I have ever made  ;D

(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k633/Acer_circinatum/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20bow_Carson%20Brown_zps1ymps7tj.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Acer_circinatum/media/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20bow_Carson%20Brown_zps1ymps7tj.jpg.html)

(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k633/Acer_circinatum/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20Bow_Carson%20Brown_primitive%20bow_7_zpsif2235wz.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Acer_circinatum/media/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20Bow_Carson%20Brown_primitive%20bow_7_zpsif2235wz.jpg.html)

(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k633/Acer_circinatum/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20Bow_Carson%20Brown_primitive%20bow_bushcraft%20archery_zpsbdqkfnty.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Acer_circinatum/media/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20Bow_Carson%20Brown_primitive%20bow_bushcraft%20archery_zpsbdqkfnty.jpg.html)

(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k633/Acer_circinatum/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20Bow_Carson%20Brown_primitive%20bow_braced%20profile%20bend%20through%20the%20handle_zpsbulbpzdf.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Acer_circinatum/media/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20Bow_Carson%20Brown_primitive%20bow_braced%20profile%20bend%20through%20the%20handle_zpsbulbpzdf.jpg.html)

(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k633/Acer_circinatum/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20Bow_Carson%20Brown_primitive%20bow_pin%20nocks%203_zpsnixvwrqm.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Acer_circinatum/media/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20Bow_Carson%20Brown_primitive%20bow_pin%20nocks%203_zpsnixvwrqm.jpg.html)

(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k633/Acer_circinatum/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20Bow_Carson%20Brown_primitive%20bow_pin%20nocks%202_zpsyjdo4hgs.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Acer_circinatum/media/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20Bow_Carson%20Brown_primitive%20bow_pin%20nocks%202_zpsyjdo4hgs.jpg.html)

(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k633/Acer_circinatum/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20Bow_Carson%20Brown_primitive%20bow_pin%20nocks_zpsftpvtr7v.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Acer_circinatum/media/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20Bow_Carson%20Brown_primitive%20bow_pin%20nocks_zpsftpvtr7v.jpg.html)

(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k633/Acer_circinatum/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20Bow_Carson%20Brown_primitive%20bow_bendy%20handle_bend%20through%20the%20handle_zps4agdsxzy.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Acer_circinatum/media/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20Bow_Carson%20Brown_primitive%20bow_bendy%20handle_bend%20through%20the%20handle_zps4agdsxzy.jpg.html)

(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k633/Acer_circinatum/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Oregon_Pyramid%20bow%20Handle_zpsf5lxm6xp.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Acer_circinatum/media/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Oregon_Pyramid%20bow%20Handle_zpsf5lxm6xp.jpg.html)

(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k633/Acer_circinatum/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20Bow_Carson%20Brown_primitive%20bow_short%20bow_zpsmekgkknj.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Acer_circinatum/media/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20Bow_Carson%20Brown_primitive%20bow_short%20bow_zpsmekgkknj.jpg.html)

(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k633/Acer_circinatum/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20Bow_Carson%20Brown_primitive%20bow_5_zpsqn5847w1.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Acer_circinatum/media/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20Bow_Carson%20Brown_primitive%20bow_5_zpsqn5847w1.jpg.html)

(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k633/Acer_circinatum/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20Bow_Carson%20Brown_primitive%20bow_full%20draw_bend%20through%20the%20handle_zpsqzw4o62j.jpg) (http://s1119.photobucket.com/user/Acer_circinatum/media/Echo%20Archery/Echo%20Archery_Osage%20Pyramid%20Bow_Carson%20Brown_primitive%20bow_full%20draw_bend%20through%20the%20handle_zpsqzw4o62j.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: bubby on March 18, 2015, 04:46:31 pm
Came out nice carson, i love the look of a a simple pyramid bow
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: make-n-break on March 18, 2015, 04:47:38 pm
Super cool bow. That's a beautiful bend! Nice finish work too.
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: Stixnstones on March 18, 2015, 05:22:32 pm
Very nice! What a great bend that baby has.
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: IdahoMatt on March 18, 2015, 05:31:13 pm
Very nicely done Carson
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: owlbait on March 18, 2015, 06:06:35 pm
Nice. Simple. Elegant. Well done.
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: Aaron H on March 18, 2015, 06:12:40 pm
Love the simple beautiful lines, and what a great bend.
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: Carson (CMB) on March 18, 2015, 08:10:00 pm
Thanks guys!! I really enjoyed building this one. I definitely like this design, especially at the higher draw weight. This pyramid build has me thinking about Del's experiment with the plexiglas pyramids...have to revisit that.
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: SLIMBOB on March 18, 2015, 08:45:52 pm
Sweet looking piece of Sage.  Like the simplicity in this one.  Very nice.
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: Halcon rojo on March 18, 2015, 10:37:56 pm
Really cool bow. I really want to make one of those. Yours looks exactly like the illustration in the book. Nice work
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: Weylin on March 18, 2015, 10:51:01 pm
Sweet simple bow. That tiller is perfect!  8)
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: H Rhodes on March 18, 2015, 11:20:00 pm
That's a fine looking bow Carson.  Good job with the beeswax finish.  It looks great. 
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: Hrothgar on March 18, 2015, 11:33:24 pm
Good job, nice replica. I've studied that drawing about a dozen times and could only imagine what type of missile launcher it must have been. Thanks for showing us.
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: Traxx on March 18, 2015, 11:56:28 pm
Looks good. :D
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: dylanholderman on March 19, 2015, 12:22:26 am
good looking bow and beautiful tiller
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: PAHunter on March 19, 2015, 01:38:13 am
Looks really fantastic!  Well done!
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: Gordon on March 19, 2015, 01:42:28 am
I like this bow a lot.
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: GB on March 19, 2015, 02:15:38 am
Great looking bow!  I'm adding that design to my "to do" list.
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: soy on March 19, 2015, 04:48:32 am
I guess it's ok >:D....
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Post by: Del the cat on March 19, 2015, 05:29:07 am
That's really cool.
I think it's the first one I've seen in that style, simple and clean which is what a bow should be (IMO)
It looks right and when it looks right it generally is right :)
Del
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Post by: Pappy on March 19, 2015, 05:40:45 am
Very nice, beautiful bow and a very nice looking piece of Osage. :)
   Pappy
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Post by: wizardgoat on March 19, 2015, 05:44:48 am
Nice bow Carson, beauty bend
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Post by: Badly Bent on March 19, 2015, 06:57:07 am
Very nice Carson, that looks like one super clean piece of osage and you got it bending to a nice arc. Like the looks of the handle and finish, fits the bow nicely.
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: Bowman on March 19, 2015, 08:22:50 am
Awesome bow mister. Real beauty. Think I will make a similar one.  :)
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Post by: rps3 on March 19, 2015, 09:32:56 am
Looks perfect.
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: Carson (CMB) on March 19, 2015, 12:18:50 pm
Thanks guys!
Hrothgar, yeah that bow in particular really jumped off the page and demanded to be built. I feel like this isn't really a replica though as it sits about 10 inches longer. It was a good intro into the design for me.

Pappy and Greg, this was a an exceptionally clean piece of osage. I had to heat out a little propeller twist and a some side bend. I got a little careless when heating out the side bend through the handle and ended up with crispy wood throughout the handle area. Bow was only roughed out, but I had to chase another ring to get through the crusty ring on the back. I was worried about making weight after that, only to find the sucker coming in at 60#! Amazing what osage can do.

I don't know why i was surprised at how hard this bow shoots. It is basically the design Tim Baker settled in on for his fast bows from boards.

Thanks Del, I am leaning towards simple and clean more and more lately.

Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: Vgo750 on March 19, 2015, 08:12:25 pm
As soon as i saw this i knew this would be the basis of my next build...i love your bow and the tiller is looks perfect to me. Bookmarked :)
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: rockrush69 on March 19, 2015, 08:48:53 pm
Man.... great job brotha !!!!
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Post by: adams89 on March 20, 2015, 06:38:22 am
Very nice work, the drawweight isn't mine, but for the rest, the bow looks super clean and the tiller is spot on!
very good work!
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: missilemaster on March 20, 2015, 07:36:53 am
Dainty little bow Carson, looks peachy :)
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Post by: Marc St Louis on March 20, 2015, 01:08:54 pm
That is a nice looking bow Carson, I really like it. 

It looks a lot like a bow I helped Paul (EhkAhk from the old board) to make about 10 years ago
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: Carson (CMB) on March 20, 2015, 02:40:52 pm
Thanks guys.

Looks pretty similar Marc!

Adam, I like my bows a little heavier too. I really liked this bow when before I had to bring the weight down...The funny thing Cody, is that it looked every bit as dainty when it pulled 60#!  Here is a picture of it before the weight-loss. And a video of it bending before I reluctantly brought the weight down.

This is a video, if you click on it:
(http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k633/Acer_circinatum/Echo%20Archery/th_94669B99-0365-496E-B181-366676ECBE03_zpswxkmjoia.mp4) (http://i1119.photobucket.com/albums/k633/Acer_circinatum/Echo%20Archery/94669B99-0365-496E-B181-366676ECBE03_zpswxkmjoia.mp4)


Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: Carson (CMB) on March 21, 2015, 12:21:20 pm
Not that anybody asked  ;D, but I found that waxing the handle and the inside of the leather thong wrap is a good way to get that leather to stay put without having to get out the superglue. 
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: Arrowind on March 21, 2015, 04:39:04 pm
Came out nice carson, i love the look of a a simple pyramid bow

Agreed.  GOOD WORK!
Title: Re: Osage Pyramid Flatbow 42# at 27" Pic heavy
Post by: JonW on March 22, 2015, 09:51:58 pm
Nice work Carson that came out good. I have copied that bow from the Hamm and Alley book many times. My favorite design to build.
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Post by: Sidewinder on March 22, 2015, 11:15:40 pm
Now that is a trie pyramid shorty. Really nice Carson. You nailed that one. I like it.
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Post by: Carson (CMB) on March 23, 2015, 04:45:55 pm
Thanks Arrowind
Thanks JonW, your bows came to mind while working on this one. I can see why it is your favorite design.
Thanks Sidewinder!