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Main Discussion Area => Bows => Topic started by: half eye on March 06, 2015, 09:20:03 am
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Fellas,
For any of you that might be interested I thought I would put up all the museum pictures I have collected. Most are museum pictures and as such have a measurement scale in them, if ya see a pic with a Tribe and length listed then it came from the text when I found it, Some only have the museum item number so will have a name on the picture to say who's it is, this also came from the text.
I did not flag the pics with the museums they came from (in hindsight that was a mistake) but I'm sure I can figure it out if you want to do some future research.
Note: You are going to see several different types all from the same tribe or band so they are not miss-prints....just different bows within the same group.
hope ya like
rich
There are a lot of 'em so this will be some every day for awhile, I dont know how to do collages.
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There is a surprising number of recurves.
Patrick
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Hey guys, they wont allow anymore pics right now I'll try later
Most of the big hook bows are Iriquoix nation bows Patric
rich
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Thanks for posting those Rich. Very coool stuff
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Idaho, there are a lot more to come
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I like the second one down! :)
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Thank you very much Rich!!!!
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I like the second one down! :)
Oddly enough, me to! Nice pics Rich.
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few more the 4th pic is described as a chippewa, from the Dr. Grayson collection
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Did you see that thing is only 37" long Cody. I like that one too but that a wee bit short for me
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The second one stood out to me as well.
Rich, this is awesome. Got it booked marked! I wanna do a little research as to the tribes around my area back home and also where I live today. I'd love to build a replica
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Fellas, that second bow was found/collected from the mount Clemens Mi. area it is not attributed but I suspect it to be Wyandott (Huron). They moved to that area when the Iriquoix tryed to extermiante them, The bow does not fit the style of either the Chippewa, Ottawa, or Neshnabek of the area so I suspect it to be Wyandott. For what it's worth because it is guess work.
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Hey rich, what Indians lived around the Cayuga lake and finger lake area? Also the Mohawk were northern NY?
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BF, let me check man....when ya get old, multi-tasking gets harder ::)
here's some more.....The bow called Ho-Chunk is the same as Winnebago
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some more
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last for today, still got a bunch
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Did you see that thing is only 37" long Cody. I like that one too but that a wee bit short for me
I'll just stretch it to 62". No biggie!
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Blaflair2,
I'm not a expert on the Iroquois Confedercy so at first I thought ya was jerkin my chain a bit....luckily I had this map tucked away.....hope it helps. Looks like the whites named the area for the Natives who lived there 8)
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My friend crooket arrow built bows just like many of those.
His bows were 50 to 58's. He said that was really long for a IROQUOIS bow. But he said through the years the longer bow just fit him better. He also said he could shoot a little father with the loner bow.
I never knew him to take over a 15 yard shot. And he still hunted and stalked 99% of the time
Anyways thanks for the pic's. Brought back lots of memorys. Keep them comeing.
BRIER SAID TO THANK YOU ALSO.
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those are awesome bows, thanks for putting them up.
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Thanks rich! Makes sense.
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here are few more
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got stuff on dif. computers so please bear with me here....need to change the size on some....still got a bunch more to post.
rich
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This is one of the best things I've ever seen! Amazing resource- thanks very much Rich! :D
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Enjoying these pictures Rich...Getting some ideas also
Don
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These pictures are awesome. I feel like this thread should be archived or saved somehow. Thanks a bunch for sharing.
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Awesome thread half eye. Really interesting I would like to start making some replicas someday.
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We should put this in the archives
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many thanks for posting that, I got lot of ideas, thanks.
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Thanks for taking the time to post these rich.
Keep em coming!
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(http://www.primitivearcher.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=51755.0;attach=110299)
I can see a sad indian sitting in the moss holding his bow, a slow tear coming from one eye. That's what I would do.
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These are awesome, thanks Rich
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got these resized
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some others
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This should be a sticky...
Where are you getting them? They look a lot like the pics from the North American Ethnographic Collection Archives, but most I have never seen.
If anybody wants to, you can go to anthro.amnh.org/anthropology/databases/north_public/north_public.html
Googling North American Ethnographic Collection will get you there, too. You can search for bows by region. The Arctic region has some fascinating styles.
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very cool rich thanks for sharing. pretty hard to come about pictures like this from searching the internet. I vote for sticky topic also. if you got time keep the pictures coming I'm sure I'm not the only one enjoying these
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Springbuck, Paul I'll go back through my list of data bases and list them for all of you. As you can imagine, they come from a lot of different museums.
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Great stuff Rich. Already see several in there I'm now gonna want to try to make, just when I was considering taking a little break from bow building along comes some inspiration. :D
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Rich, do you know if they are all original or are there some reproductions in there? Some of them look new. Amazing pictures. Amazing bows!
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Awesome! Thanks for all of the images. A lot of these bows were probably made by people living right around where I live today.
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Thanks Rich, your title is a little deceptive with the bow pictures from California and the great basin thrown in there. I have a lot of these images saved on my computer too. I wish more museums had online data bases.
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Hey Chuck, I had so many bows cataloged for a while the missplaced ones probably slid through the "editing crack" (meaning the old mans memory and not top flight proceedures ::)) please point out those in error and I will edit them out. Also I have a bunch more to put up so please do the same with those.....we can either flag them or remove them and thank you, sir.
rich
PS: some of the plains Chippewa and plains Neshnabek (Potawatomii) do look like the bows from the area they moved into, is probably where my confusion came from while posting, again fellas, my apologies.
rich
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allmost forgot the earlier question here is a partial list of sources....should have more on the other computer.
Musee McCord (Montreal)
Research. amnh.org.anthropology-database
Museum of Anthropology, college of arts
Hannahville virtual Museum
National Museum of the American Indian (collections database)
Peabody Museum of Archeology and Ethnology
Smithsonian National Museum of Natural History
rich
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This is really cool. Would love to see this thread become a sticky! I've been wondering though, were scallops for decoration purposes or did they serve as anything more functional? They sure look cool.
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PA should archive this thread. It seems to have some of the bows from hams books. But in color. I love this kind of stuff for inspiration. Thanks again Rich. Very cool of you to take the time and do this.
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I have talked with several elders and this is what I think is the deal with scallops. I believe they were intended as something like a sign post....so friends or enemys can tell who you are from a distance, or a aggressive personality that wanted the same recognition as a "in your face" message. As far as I know all nations who did scalloped bows had different sizes and locations of the scallops and or bow shape.....but they also had bows that were not scalloped so obviously it was not a mandatory thing more like the personal prefference of the carrier.
Another thing is that Eastern bows were generally not extensively painted or decorated so the carving could also serve as method of decoration or pride etc.
I'm attaching 2 pics of Odawa bows, one recovered from Wolpol Island (Ottawa Island) in the great lakes and one from Oklahoma Reserve made by a displaced Odawa......they are markedly different.
Thanks Matt, was posting while you was
rich
These are guess work of course and there is no stone carved that says this is so. However there are many things in the Native American culture wherein the same applies as to items made and decorated to the beliefs, caprice, or meaningfullness of shuch object has to the carrier.
The Oklahoma bow is on the other computer will put it up in the next post
rich
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the other Odawa bow
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here are 4 more....the first one (single bow) is a Neshnabek (potawatomii) from the Peabody Museum I kept this one because it shows one of their Groundhog rawhide string (hows that for a string silencer?
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No apologies Rich. This is a great collection! I agree with the idea of putting this up for permanent access.
In line with Chuck's editing suggestion, the AMNH lists the bow with the green beaded quiver (501_1297AB) as Shoshoni. The quiver looks more Lakota to me though.
Curtis
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Rich, awesome! Thanks for posting!
This thread should be archived.
What a resource!
Jawge
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tipi stuff, george thanks fellas, I hope it can be of use as another resource for the PA guys.
tipi, a side note dont know if you studied this or not but......back in the time of the Shawnee Prophet Techumse's brother, a Odawa war leader made his first attack on the Muskodesh of Le Arbor Croche and masaquered thousands....at that time was an earth tremor in Michigan, taken as a omen nearly half of the Odawa nation moved west and lived with the Shoshoni. That maybe why I saved it because of the connection.....also a large cache of great lakes copper pints were uncovered in Montana country, and I also find it interesting that the Shoshoni are the only algonquian speaking plains tribes......anyways thank you for making the noteation
rich
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Great resource of bows.
The Shoshone however are not Algonquin. There are however several Algonquin tribes on the Plains, including the Plains Cree and The Blackfoot.
Language didn't seem to have a great deal to do with Plains tribes alliances.
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The decorated scalloped bow above is actually properly named an Anishinaabe bow at the museum. This could be Odawa or it could be Algonquin or even Ojibwa.
An Algonquin elder who used to make bows called it a medicine bow when I showed him a reproduction of this bow.
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RICH you da man.
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Marc, The odawa, and ojibwe refer to themselves as Anishinaabe, or Anishinaabek (depends on tense) and the Potawatomi call them selves the Neshnabek which is a dialect diferentiation only since all three consider themselves originally all the same and Anishinaabe means original people or First people depending on who you ask. Seperating them is not their history.
They consider the time when they seperated into 3 groups as the time of their "fourth stop" of their westward migration, when the ones who went north were Odawa, those at the Straights were Ojibwe or chippewa, and the ones that went south were Potawatami but all were still called Anishinaabe or dialect deivations of that.
The Odawa elders I showed the bow to say it is a fine old odawa bow, so that is what I call it. In any case it is definately Eastern Woodland. This is not our first dissagreement on the particular bow. But in either case both sides are represented so the future readers can be aware of the possibilities.
I believe that you are aware that the French, British, and Americans all had different names for them, and did not diferentiate too carefully so I go by their history and tradition, as I have said before.
Pat: I did not say the Shoshoni were algonquin I said they were of the Algonquian language group. This is a common grouping distinction used in a lot of the writings I am aware of. The plains Ojibawe and Cree spoke a dialect called Oji-Cree, still Algonquian language but a different dialect. The siouian Language group was seperate as was the Athapaskin language groups such as Apache. But as I told Marc, both sides are now fairly represented so let the readers decide for themselves,eh?
rich
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I know what you meant but it's incorrect. The Shoshone speak a Uto-Aztecan language.
The various splinter tribes that can be considered a larger group was a constantly ongoing thing. The Anishinabe just happened to be noted in that transitional stage.
Others diverged and started hating each other like the Huron and other Iroquois.
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uto-aztecan is correct on all the pre contact maps, however I believe there was a change in distribution after contact when some tribes were forced into the plains. I believe that explains the little pocket of Algonquian language (all beit western Oji-Cree) from the Arapaho, Gros Ventre,Blackfoot and Cheyenne, a small island of algonquian language groups after contact, surrounded by uto aztecan, siouxian, caddoan etc. The tradition says Shoshone, in any event there was a sizeable migration of Odawa.
If you wish to call it incorrect thats fine, doesn't change the bows or my reasoning for keeping the picture that I posted. I kept it for the stated reason, if thats incorrect does not matter the bow is the same and has been attributed correctly by Tipi Stuff, in an earlier post and that is what matters to me. All the pro-con debate is there for the readers to see.
rich
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After horses showed up plenty of tribes and their associated language groups ended up well outside where they originated from. Being forced onto the plains was probably a blessing for most.
Still not sure why you are saying they were Algonquin apart from associating with tribes which were.
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Rich, thanks for this post, a lot of great photos and ideas.
I'm hoping to get down and visit the native American display at the University of Missouri at Columbia some time soon. Dr. Grayson ( and his heirs) donated much to the school. Supposedly there are still some artifacts in the basement which haven't been catalogued and displayed.
There are no preserved bows or arrows that I know of in Missouri other than the Osage who were mostly south of the Missouri river.
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Rich
I was just stating the fact that the bow is listed as an Anishinaabe bow at the museum, makes no mention of Odawa or Algonquin or anything else for that matter. Pity since it is a lovely bow.
It is an impressive collection
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Rich, let me add my name to the list of thanks for the time and effort it takes to post these amazing photos. My wife has been delving more into her genealogy and has traced it to include some Cree history in her lines. It was nice to see the Cree photos and share those with her.
Mike
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I loved all the pics thanks for all the effort to post these. But those pics of the indians holding there bows were cool
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I have several more bow pics and some very interesting sites to augment this all but will need some help. I can email links but can post them here....I also can open some of my bow pics but they wont allow me to do so where I can resize them they are between 300 and 500 kb so are just a little too big.....if anyone can help I could email these to them and maybe they could add to the post as an extra resource.....one of the sites is a Native American run site of all NA photographs thats where some pics of men holding or stinging bows comes from.....anyway if someone wants to voluter that would be great.
rich
Here are a few examples attached
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Yes first of all Thanks. I've been pulling the pictures I don't have to my files on iphoto.
The first bow in the second post on page one is Miwok. The Shoshone set as mentioned on page 2 and a Apache and Shoshone set on page 3.
Keep this post going
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Here is an example of why I need the posting help....I wanted to put up the link to the Hannahville Virtual Museum (so you would not have to google it yourself) if go to that site you will see a board of various items....in row 2 the first and second items are bows that the Neshnabek (potawatomii) say are theirs.......the first bow is a typical Eastern Woodland type single curve but does the whole belly incise carved.....the second bow is actually 2 bows the first is a single curve with a pronounced ridge (or keel) running down the belly of the bow and is worth noting....however the second bow (last 2 pics) is the one that appears in one of Hamms' books a flat single curved scalloped bow............these bow pictures are very high resolution and have a bar to enlarge them to a point of seeing wood grain and pores, and the ability to scan up and down the bow as well to examine all the details closely. The reason for bringing this up is so that you can see that bow in detail but you can also see that the museum piece is strung upside down because you can look at the knocks.....the Neshnabek are the same as the Odawa or Ojibwe in that they shoot off of the scalloped side, and the diamond fineal is the top regardless of the string orientation. These bows are housed at the National Museum of the American Indian and were transferred from Jackson Hole WY, in an exchange. I contacted the museum about this bow and was politely advised that it arrived as photographed and they are not going chance any damage by changing the string and this is a matter of practice on any artifact (no damage of any kind) and so that is how it will remain....as photographed.
Sorry for the long winded deal but that is why I wanted to post the link so you could have a chance to look at some bows so close it's scary.
rich
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here is the link: http://www.potawatomilanguage.org/virtualmuseum/bow.php?view=Front
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Thanks Pat, that is just the first bow the other two are not there, I'll see if I can get the Item number for you.
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Pat M, the second catalog number is 241980.00 it is a single number but applies to two seperate bows....transferred in 1968
rich
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http://www.potawatomilanguage.org/virtualmuseum/bowsarrows.php?view=1
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Thank you sir, those are all 3 bows.
rich
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Thank you very much for posting all of this Rich. This is really cool.
You don't by chance have any Osage Indian pictures do you? I believe from what I'm told they are from my neck of the woods. And part of my heritage as well. Patrick
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Let me check sir, I got stuff spread all over and I'll try not screw up this time.
rich
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Ha, ha, ha,,,, Rich, you are being too hard on yourself! The Amercian Museum of Natural History is full of “screw ups”. If you go to the AMNH site and look under comments, there are several corrections with my name beside them. I have a very limited area of “expertise”, but there are certain things I know really well. I have to admit, I don’t know squat about Eastern stuff.
Our comments are certainly not meant to be an indictment of your work. Those of us sitting here as arm chair critics are applauding your efforts. Keep em coming.
Springbuck mentions making a sticky out of this material. I don’t know the first thing about how to do this, but I agree with his idea. Some time back, I posted a lot of Lakota bowcase/ quivers. Who knows how to find them now? I put a lot of examples on there, but they are not easily accessed, nor will newcomers to the site know they were ever posted.
Curtis
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I also want to add "Thanks" for this interesting read and views of these historic pieces. I especially enjoyed the map of NY, as I live directly in the heart of the Oneida Nation.
We have an abundance of forests here in central NY, and I have to wonder what the primary wood of choice was ?? I've heard of a few Osage trees in the area, but they're extremely scarce.
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Rich asked me to post these for him so here they are...
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Thank you Pat, Those pictures are all Ojibwa bows, I also found the arrows interesting. I found another thought you fellas might like. It's actual photgraphs of the Sudbury bow, taken by the Peabody Museum.....
The second pic is of a bow that may possibly be Osage. My note on this picture is that while not attributed it believed to be either Sioux, Cheyenne, or Osage....it's the best I could come up with and not sure, maybe one of the western Nations experts can pin it down better.
rich
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Rich,
The Ojibwa arrows above, are those bone points? Looks like I can see the remnants of sinew wraps where the fletchings were.
Don
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Thats what I thought Don, also looks like the arrows dont have the western style flared string knocks either......just one puzzel after another with these pics 8)
rich
PS: Don did those links work that I sent you....is so send 'em back so I can send 'em to pat for posting....ya know I'm computer challenged dont ya?
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On the way bud...I really enjoyed them ;)
Don
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Very nice Rich. If you don't mind I am going to add one to your collection of photos. This is the only Native American bow I have ever seen in person.
Picture was taken in the archery museum in bass pro shop in springfield, MO. The bow was made by Geronimo while he was in captivity in Florida. It has a sinew string and is in the neighborhood of 4 feet in length and looks to be made of Osage. Patrick
(http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w668/lebhuntfish1/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-12/20141214_111848_zpspqds612k.jpg) (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/lebhuntfish1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-12/20141214_111848_zpspqds612k.jpg.html) (http://i1335.photobucket.com/albums/w668/lebhuntfish1/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-12/20141214_111815_zpslkj939w8.jpg) (http://s1335.photobucket.com/user/lebhuntfish1/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-12/20141214_111815_zpslkj939w8.jpg.html)
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Thats great, it aint my collection though got to believe it's a PA collection now 8) 8) It can only get a whole bunch better from here.
rich
Thank you Don
rich
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When you get through posting all of these, if pat doesn't sticky it I will. Or, we'll put it somewhere easy to find.
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Thank you sir, I have a few more but not very many. Thanks for being patient with all the bow section hoggin I been doing....I'll try get my butt busy.
rich
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Been on this thread nearly from the beginning. Thanks for all the work on this Rich!
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OK boys and girls....here is some firstclass eye-candy.
Bow is located at the Musee McCord, collected by David Ross McCord his own self. It is 62.5 inches by 2 inches (5.1cm X 158.5cm) The bow is listed as anonymous but if you click on the more info it is declared by McCord as belonging to the Shawnee Warrior Tecumseh, killed at the Moraviantown fight 1813. He bases that on the people he got it from, the style in which it was carved, shape of the string knocks, and the engraved (incised carving) iconography. It is for sure Shawnee. Enjoy the pics
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Thanks slimbob
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Holy smokes Rich! The entire thread is a treasure trove of wonder and inspiration, but Tecumseh's bow was truly the creme de la creme! Thank you for sharing some of the fruits of your research. josh
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Rich
would you mind emailing the pics of the Tecumseh bow to me?
was it 2inches at the handle or at the widest part?
I would like to see it reproduced , that would be a fun project.
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no problem bud....send me a email rousseau.rd@att.net and I believe I fire 'em off. I believe that the width measurement to be widest point, thats how it's done on the scalloped bows.
rich
Thanks Josh hope it helps everybody, with the talent around this place this ought to be REAL GOOD 8)
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That an elaborate bow there. Rich do you know if the designs are on the back or belly? are they incised or painted on? Also do you think this bow was shot or was it a presentation or ceremonial work?
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Whoops I didn't read well the first time around, I see now where you noted that the designs are incised. :-[
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Good lord that's a fancy bow!
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Hey Greg,
Got to belive this bow was not used as a bow, maybe a status symbol. The reason I say that is because in the later years of Tecumseh fireams were the predominate weapon of choice. There is a recount in the oral history of the Odawa (who were present when he was killed) that he was shot through the thigh bone and the last they hear him say was .....they shot off my leg so leave a loaded gun so I can have one more shot, and they said the last they could see him was surrounded by American troops.
That and the fact that he was most often reffered to as "techumseh the great warrior" so I believe he would have "status" symbols or badges of some kind. It's also in really good condition.
That is all guess work, but the bow does not look like a everyday tool......but hey who knows for sure,
rich
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what a wealth of knowledge! Thank you so much!
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Thankyou for the pictures. All splendid bow.
So far Geronimo's bow is my favorite. Such a beauty!!
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I forgot to mention that the Geronimo bow has a carving on the back of the bow. If you look closely in the last pic I posted you can see it. It looks kinda like a continuous infinity sign down the back.
Sorry, those are the best picture's I could get because of the lighting. Patrick
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Here are a few more....all are Seminole (south eastern) but notice that they look just like the eastern woodland so thought I'd post "em up. Museum of Narural History
Heres the particulars:
50.1/2343 71-1/2" X 1.57"
/2344 57-7/8" X 1.57"
/2345 15-1/2" X 3/4" (listed as a toy but has been used and might be a "learning bow" Kid
50.1/2347 c-f arrows longest is 41" and the shortest is 35" w/ closeup of the heads
notice they are rectangular section, single curve, and have diamond fineals.
rich
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here are a few more southeast bows, also from the American Museum of Natural History
NOTE: these pics are pretty small but if you go to www.amnh.org/anthropology/collectsions/database you can access by the catalog number and they have a zoom feature.....sorry I dont know how to post a direct link.
first bow is Choctaw 65-3/4 X 1.5" number 50.2/6342
second is Catawaba (the last is the arrow shafts (cane) this bow is 48-3/8" X 1-3/4" and has "keystone" shaped fineals
all the bows are plain, rectangular section
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i wish there was some kinda scale to get bow dimensions off those photos...
but that being said thank you for putting in this kinda effort to find all these photos and post them up... it's amazing to me to see the difference between regional area/tribes and the types/sizes/etc of the bows they make and used...
i wonder what actual poundages these pulled as some look quite tiny and delicate to me..
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Remember that for museum purposes the measurements would describe an "invisible box" into which the object would fit.....so if you see a description that gives 3 measurements and ya freak out over "depth" it is actually the bow laid back or belly and measured to the furthest distance (meaning the bow and all of the set.
Also the length given is a straight line from tip to tip no following of contours etc. just so you know the curators could care less about bowyers having "regular" measurements....they simply describe the size of the objects "footprint"
Having said all that if any of the measurements on a pic is accurate you can calculate most of the dimensions and be pretty close.
rich
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I believe there are dimensions on the museum website, they are in metric
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Marc is correct, there are measurements on most items usually in centimeters so when I posted the pics I just divided by 2.54 and entered them as inches (I originally did that because it was easier for me) but you should be aware that height and width given measurements might not be the bow....they may be the space occupied by the bow, sometimes not so. But if you come across a measurement of height of 6 to 8 cm be aware that the bow is probably not 2.36 - 3.15 inches thick.
Marc told you correctly as stated, I just want to point out that curators measurements may not be the same as what we as bowyers need.
Thanks Marc
rich
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I really appreciate this rich. Totally awesome. Thanks again. I'm gonna have to do some research on a Cayuga Indian bow. I'd love to make a replica of sorts
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Wow is this stuff ever cool!!!!!!!!!
I'm a newb and really appreciate finding this.
Thanx
Chuck
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I'm glad you found this stash and moved it up. I've never seen this post. I spend too much time looking for museum photos of native bows, and here are a ton!
Eric
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that 74 inch Mohawk with very recurved tips... wow
if only i could see it in more detail. width profile? bendy or stiff handle?.. how would it look unstrung..
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When you get through posting all of these, if pat doesn't sticky it I will. Or, we'll put it somewhere easy to find.
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Or, we'll put it somewhere easy to find.
I will second that proposal, as it will be nice to have a reference place to put museum photos and links
Hope to see more additions, and it might happen if it is easy to find.
thanks in advance, admin.