Primitive Archer
Main Discussion Area => Arrows => Topic started by: david w. on January 26, 2008, 07:49:52 pm
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I was at the trap and skeet facilitiy when i noticed a wild rose bush by one of the cornfields bordering the range. I saw a couple good shoots, but there was one problem,i had no knife. So i did what any good caveman would do. I went through the place's landscap 'till i found a piece of flint/chert whatever. It was pretty low grade stuff but it had to work. I spalled a couple of flakes of but none of them were good enough. So i put the thing down and took a big rock and...BAM! I finally had sharp enough peice so i went and cut a couple of shoots down. So i got the shoots now. When should i debark them. Can i do it tonight? or should i wait a while? How can i straighten them? Can i use a candle? I dont think my mom would let me use the kitchen stove. We have company tonight and all thats gonna happen i will be stuck at the kitchen table talking for hours unless i find something to do.
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Good job David, as to yer questions do a search for "rose shoots" and I'm sure you will find something as these questions have been answered before.
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I think Jawges website has something on shoot arrows. Does anyone know the website address? i will try to find it
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http://mysite.verizon.net/georgeandjoni/archer.html
There ya go.
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thanks alot
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http://groups.msn.com/ferretsarcherywebpage
Mickey LOtz's site also has rose shoot arrows how to
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thanks Dana.
i went ahead and debarked one. if it checks it ok because theres alot more more it came from
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i also tied it down to a board to keep it straight so it wouldnt warp
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how long do you think it would take to dry?
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David, You can hand straighten them while green without heat. Every day or so pick up the shoots and work on the worst bends first. Do a little at a time and wait a few more days and start again.By the time they dry(depending on R/H, could be as little as a few weeks)they will be pretty straight. Then you can use a candle to heat the areas that need a final straightening. I like to put cooking oil on the shoot before using a flame. I think it helps hold the heat, heats more evenly and prevents scorching while straightening.
With hardwood shoots I like to add color by scorching along the shaft. I do this after the shaft is cured and straight. After scorching let the shafts settle in and rehydrate for a few days before stressing them. Pat
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ps. I have heard that rose shoots will check if debarked too soon. I guess you will know for sure soon. ;D Pat
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thanks Pat that helps alot.
I hope once i get a few more that these can be my new hunting arrows
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ps. I have heard that rose shoots will check if debarked too soon. I guess you will know for sure soon. ;D Pat
Darn. I will find out soon. I will just get some next weekend. ;D
I used some other shoots and i debarcked them right away and i never had any problem with checking. Rose just must be different
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Well Pat after beingdebarked for a coupla hours i was straghtening it and i noticed 2 long cracks. O well i still have another shoot and i can just get more next time i go shooting. But i am going prepared. i am taking pruning shears and there will be no more rose on the property. i am going to eradicate it. ;D
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I can just imagine all the wierd looks i am going to get when they see some kid in the woods in the middle of a thorn bush. ;D
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They may or may not. I haven't made many rose shoot arrows so it only what I've heard. Mickey's site will tell you what you need to know. Maybe Jawge's too. Pat
I just read you newest post. They will still shoot fine if not checked too bad. As long as the cracks run with the grain, they might look funny but should shoot OK. I have an abo arrow I made with viburnum that checks in a few places but no ill effect. Actually the checks may act like lightening grooves and help keep the finished shafts straight.
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Ya the checks go with the grain. ill just put some wood stiffener for extra saftey and durability
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david w. ,
I've got a bit of a build along here on PA of what I have been doing to build some rose shoot arrrows. I hope to post the rest of the build along tomarrow with the finished arrows!! ;)
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Great thanks it will help alot. I want to have a few good arrows instead of using mismatched under or over spined arrows. i only have one good one right now